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I did not know about the 3 Date Rule prior to this thread. I like to try to get the sex out of the way at the beginning of the first date. that way during the balance of the date there's no sexual tension hanging like a cloud over a time getting to know one another. I don't have to be thinking, should I hold her hand? is now a good time to kiss her? etc.

and those questions and concerns are eliminated for her as well. is he going to kiss me? are my lips moist?

the other added benefit of this approach is that even if there is not a second at least one of us departs satisfied - and generally both of us do.

this is a much, much better approach than the whole "save your kisses" thing. who knows?? the world could end tomorrow - or maybe just your world or mine - and you have all these kisses saved and they go to waste. that would be sad. sad indeed.
 
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Perhaps you should re-evaluate your reading comprehension skills.

*expects too much sometimes*
Just a question - is it necessary to insult others on these boards? Does it make people feel somehow superior? I didn't say anything mean or snarky, but I have seen more than once that some people here seem to see it as a necessary component of a response.

I am seriously wondering why that is so?
 
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I did not know about the 3 Date Rule prior to this thread. I like to try to get the sex out of the way at the beginning of the first date. that way during the balance of the date there's no sexual tension hanging like a cloud over a time getting to know one another. I don't have to be thinking, should I hold her hand? is now a good time to kiss her? etc.

and those questions and concerns are eliminated for her as well. is he going to kiss me? are my lips moist?

the other added benefit of this approach is that even if there is not a second at least one of us departs satisfied - and generally both of us do.
There's also the benefit that (per 'The Tao of Steve') right after you finish having sex you're briefly thinking the same way she thinks all the time....so communication might be even better than usual.
 
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Sigh.
At the risk of being drop-kicked by the sisterhood as a "hoor"... here's my two cents.
I understand what the guys are saying about the "3rd date rule". No, they are not implying sex. It's more about affection. A glimpse into the possibilities.

Here's the kicker which may hopefully bring this out of stereotypes... I feel the same way. If a guy is not warming up to me after 3 dates (hold my hand, give me a wonderful hug, give me a nice kiss) then I will assume there's no chemistry. I'm not one for sprinting ahead of the natural progression of things, but I also don't want to waste time on something that will go nowhere. Based on experience in my ex-marriage, I know I don't ever want to be in a relationship where there is a lack of intimacy again. I think by the 3rd date, I can tell if that might be a problem or not. Many guys might feel the same.
Just a thought.
I am not certain why there would be any drop kicking necessary (well, except for those folks that seem to see that as simply a fun sport) for a person's opinion.

And I would agree with what you have said about expression of interest, and managed to say in a respectful and non-crude manner. I had never heard of the 3rd date rule before this.

But I do find myself wishing for an effective way to discover which men believe that it is only worth their time and interest to get to know a woman if there is going to be sex by the third date. The presumption alone is enough for me not to want to even see them for the first date.
 
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TXButtercup wrote :
Just a question - is it necessary to insult others on these boards? Does it make people feel somehow superior? I didn't say anything mean or snarky, but I have seen more than once that some people here seem to see it as a necessary component of a response.

I am seriously wondering why that is so?
Buttercup....my impression is that what happens is people start to feel threatened by others opinions or attitudes and so they lash out. This may be an attempt to feel better about themselves or even to bully others into sharing the opinion that feels less threatening to them. It is unfortunate....but oh well. Hang in there and I hope you'll keep posting anyway.
 
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TXButtercup wrote :
Just a question - is it necessary to insult others on these boards? Does it make people feel somehow superior? I didn't say anything mean or snarky, but I have seen more than once that some people here seem to see it as a necessary component of a response.

I am seriously wondering why that is so?
I thought it would get your attention to more accurately read my posts and not attribute false meaning to them. I'm sorry if I ruffled your feathers.

Thank you for your response, though, in which you clearly chose not to retract your invalid assumptions regarding my original post!
 
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Buttercup....my impression is that what happens is people start to feel threatened by others opinions or attitudes and so they lash out. This may be an attempt to feel better about themselves or even to bully others into sharing the opinion that feels less threatening to them. It is unfortunate....but oh well.
Yes, you're exactly right. It has nothing to do with other people's inaccurate assumptions.

Thank you Sigmund. Read familiar?
 
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I did not know about the 3 Date Rule prior to this thread. I like to try to get the sex out of the way at the beginning of the first date. that way during the balance of the date there's no sexual tension hanging like a cloud over a time getting to know one another. I don't have to be thinking, should I hold her hand? is now a good time to kiss her? etc.

and those questions and concerns are eliminated for her as well. is he going to kiss me? are my lips moist?

the other added benefit of this approach is that even if there is not a second at least one of us departs satisfied - and generally both of us do.

this is a much, much better approach than the whole "save your kisses" thing. who knows?? the world could end tomorrow - or maybe just your world or mine - and you have all these kisses saved and they go to waste. that would be sad. sad indeed.
In addition to this sage advice, I also recommend women bring their children along on the first date--.and any psycho exes as well. preferably halfway into the first date once the sex is out of the way--you don't want to be intimate in front of them..that's just bad manners. This gets the whole "will the children like me?" anxiety out of the way, opening you up to reaching new heights in emotional baggage sharing. Meeting the psycho ex(es) is also important, because the sooner you realize the source of all her baggage, better you can understand her baggage.

Damn..we need to market our own book. It's easy to market a dating book full of questionable advice.
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Yes, you're exactly right. It has nothing to do with other people's inaccurate assumptions.

Thank you Sigmund. Read familiar?
I take it Buttercup was responding to something you wrote previously on this thread? I haven't even read it so I can only make general comments.

When people make inaccurate statements or assumptions of course these can be pointed out. That is something entirely different than attacking, denigrating etc. Again, I don't know if you have done this or not.

With your last sentence are you referring to my jestfully calling someone 'Sigmund' in relation to a psychologically oriented post? I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who consider that an attack.
 
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TXButtercup wrote :
But I do find myself wishing for an effective way to discover which men believe that it is only worth their time and interest to get to know a woman if there is going to be sex by the third date. The presumption alone is enough for me not to want to even see them for the first date.
TBC - there is no effective way to know this or anything else about the future.

I would suggest that the majority of us are here to find a relationship. sex is one of the elements of a relationship. and from my experience is an important element at all times, but especially in the early stages for creating special bonds etc.

often times the timing for one person does not mesh exactly with the other's so there can be a little tension, stress as both parties try to figure it out. am I coming on too fast? he/she's not coming on fast enough - doesn't he/she like me? what else does all this mean.

while there may be men (or women) who practice a hard set 3 date rule, I would speculate that they are in the minority of eHa daters. there are also people on eHa who are married, are gold diggers, or have other unsavory talents.

the gist is that each party, as their comfort level provides, needs to take initiative and express interest. otherwise we run the risk of the other person misreading the situation, becoming bored and leaving, or just realizing the match on this level does not work and it's time to move.

hope I wasn't snarky. I'll shoot for funny sometimes, but try to avoid the snark.
 
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