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jussmile is offline jussmile Post #1  January 1,2010, 11:12am
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For those of you who believe that you need to have "The Talk" before you are considered exclusive in a relationship, how long before it's long enough?

I've broken off a relationship with a guy that after two months he was still not ready to have "the talk." Now, this is two months of continuous communications, seeing each other at least 2-3 times per week. He thought it was too fast... I thought, too slow... so, since I do not believe in right or wrong, I just felt it was a matter of compatibility and let him go.

I personally look for the guy to ask the question. I might start the conversation, and/or hint that I am interested, but I believe the guy should ask once he is ready. I am not one for pushing a guy or pressuring him into something he is not ready for.

So, for the guys... how long do you think is long enough before you'll have the talk...

for the girls... how long do you give him before you expect it to become exlusive or walk? or, just start getting anxious without walking?

Obviously there is no "one" answer... people have become exclusive off of the first date based on other conversations on this board. I'm just thinking what are experiences that you've had.

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I have never pinned a woman down in this way. I largely just assume she will be faithful (I've been mistaken in this belief, but getting from her the commitment wouldn't have changed that.)

In practice, I usually give up looking for others after a few meetings - two to four, which for me is one month or so - or having sex, if that is sooner.

I do think you shoud introduce this topic if it is important to you!

Waiting until something makes you "walk," when you never brought it up, is reason for him to walk (while rolling his eyes.)
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Depending on the intensity of each meeting and the feelings I have for the woman.

I'd say if I have a pretty good (romantic) feeling about her, and meeting her 2-3 times/week for two months...I'd have the talk by the end of the 2nd month.

That's about at least 16 dates/meetings (not including phones/emails/texts). Plenty of time to make a decision. Just compare that with an article saying that it normally takes up to 16 dates for some people to decide whether they wanted to be physically intimate.
 
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I believe after 8 weeks of 2-3 times meting and other times talking is long enough to decide if you should be in a commited relationship.
 
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jussmile wrote :
For those of you who believe that you need to have "The Talk" before you are considered exclusive in a relationship, how long before it's long enough?

I've broken off a relationship with a guy that after two months he was still not ready to have "the talk." Now, this is two months of continuous communications, seeing each other at least 2-3 times per week. He thought it was too fast... I thought, too slow... so, since I do not believe in right or wrong, I just felt it was a matter of compatibility and let him go.

I personally look for the guy to ask the question. I might start the conversation, and/or hint that I am interested, but I believe the guy should ask once he is ready. I am not one for pushing a guy or pressuring him into something he is not ready for.

So, for the guys... how long do you think is long enough before you'll have the talk...

for the girls... how long do you give him before you expect it to become exlusive or walk? or, just start getting anxious without walking?

Obviously there is no "one" answer... people have become exclusive off of the first date based on other conversations on this board. I'm just thinking what are experiences that you've had.

Thoughts?
Four weeks, six days, 14 hours, 32 minutes and 56 seconds.

For me, it's more about the quality of time spent than the quantity. I've had men that I dated casually and never expected the talk because they simply didn't seem to have the willingness or ability to initiate any more than what was going on. I've had others that I knew after 2 dates were someone I wanted to focus on without the distraction of social dating.

I will say that generally, if a man expects physical intimacy before he's initiated a talk regarding his view of the relationship and my place in his life, I'm pretty much out of there. Or, if I stay, I treat is as exactly what it is...which is a sexual relationship and nothing more. People seem to think that women are the only ones who develop unspoken expectations when sex is involved without committment. I'm here to tell you - it just ain't so.
 
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I bring it up after a couple of dates. As I have said before I am the kind of guy that if I plan on seeing someone more than once I feel it would be wrong to go on dates with other women and so far the women I have met have agreed. I don't think being exclusive too soon is anything bad. I would worry if I saw a woman 2-3 times a week over a month and she wasn't interested in being exclusive.
 
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so, the question doesn't have to do with the guy that has already been let go of... he is gone.

I'm just thinking what people normally do. First, there is no sex without a committed relationship. It's just not me.

But, what if you just click with a person in a relatively short period of time (let's say less than a month). Is it okay to hint at exclusivity? Or, do you just wait?
 
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jussmile wrote :
so, the question doesn't have to do with the guy that has already been let go of... he is gone.

I'm just thinking what people normally do. First, there is no sex without a committed relationship. It's just not me.

But, what if you just click with a person in a relatively short period of time (let's say less than a month). Is it okay to hint at exclusivity? Or, do you just wait?
I don't hint. I communicate directly. And let the chips fall where they may.
 
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Four weeks, six days, 14 hours, 32 minutes and 56 seconds.

For me, it's more about the quality of time spent than the quantity. I've had men that I dated casually and never expected the talk because they simply didn't seem to have the willingness or ability to initiate any more than what was going on. I've had others that I knew after 2 dates were someone I wanted to focus on without the distraction of social dating.

I will say that generally, if a man expects physical intimacy before he's initiated a talk regarding his view of the relationship and my place in his life, I'm pretty much out of there. Or, if I stay, I treat is as exactly what it is...which is a sexual relationship and nothing more. People seem to think that women are the only ones who develop unspoken expectations when sex is involved without commitment. I'm here to tell you - it just ain't so.
Wise words, MonkeyMind. : )

I find this issue troublesome because without good communication, it's difficult to know what's going on -- where the relationship is going -- whether it's just a casual thing or whatever. In some cases, casual is fine, right? But you both have to be on the same page. So in order to figure that out, you need to share ideas. But for many men (that I've met) the talking part is something they're not ready for or equipped for.

This is a confusing area of dating for me. This past summer I dated a man for 2-3 months on a regular basis and we enjoyed each other's company. But we derailed at the talk/intimacy stage. Funny thing was, I had a feeling it was coming, and I tried to initiate a conversation about the whole casual vs. more committed thing. He was referring to me as his gf, inviting me to family functions, but was still unable to discuss any kind of feelings or his view of our relationship. And I'm far from a where-is-this-relationship-going-what-are-you-thinking-now kind of person.

I think that for many men the talking is 'scary,' the sex is just fun.
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stevex wrote :
I would worry if I saw a woman 2-3 times a week over a month and she wasn't interested in being exclusive.

Yep. Definitely not investment-grade.
 
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