richey is online now richey Post #51  December 16,2009, 4:51pm
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I used to wonder this a lot myself. The answer is this: you meet the right person.

When this happens.... everthing goes out the window and changes. Maybe the REAL SECRET to love and relationships is similar to what somebody told me one day (he was a car salesman....):

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It's all about finding the right customer
If a "customer" isn't really interested in purchasing a product, there really isn't anything a sales person can do. But if the "right" customer comes along and really wants a product, the salesman doesn't really have to do anything to get maximum profit for the sale.

Maybe the secret to love/relationships is to be more accepting of the idea that a lot of the people we date are NOT the right "customer" or "match" and we all need to stop forcing bad relationships and be more willing to move on. Maybe the secret is we need to realize and put the emphasis more on how good of a match/compatible person is this, rather than what we should be doing or they should be doing to make it work..... and just admit more than we like, "this isn't going to work."

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Those who help others out of the kindness of their hearts,"without an agenda", are rare if not extinct.
 
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lyc wrote :
Those who help others out of the kindness of their hearts,"without an agenda", are rare if not extinct.
I have to believe this isn't true.
 
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j0hn8andy wrote :
I think in any relationship there are "givers" and "takers". It doesn't mean we don't change places sometimes. I always considered myself a "taker".

Our 5th anniversary was spent in Hawaii. A lavish trip, several islands, several weeks. We weren't going to buy each other gifts that year; the trip was our gift to our marriage. The morning of our anniversary, I woke up and my husband gave me a sapphire ring I'd seen and loved at our favorite jewelers' for several years. I had nothing for him, not even a card. Did I feel bad? Not for one minute! He wanted to give me something so special and not receive anything in return except my love. He planned that surprise because it pleased him to do so.

Many of you know he died a year ago. I used to give him these cards sometimes. Really sappy cards, the "How do I love you, let me count the ways" kind of card. As I go through things, every so often, I come across one of those cards.....in his underwear drawer, his desk drawer, his workbench out in the garage.....several places. He saved those sappy cards I gave him like they were a gift. They touched him, and he saved them.

When I gave him those cards, I didn't expect anything in return. Now, when I come across them, and realize why he saved them, they are his gift to me. I wish I had given him more. I hope I haven't found them all yet.

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I was very fortunate in this way too, as my parents, each of them utterly inexperienced in every way, met at age 27 on a Sierra Club hike on a mountain, and married at age 29, ( a month apart in age!!) and their very happy marriage lasted 64 years;

When my dad died at the age of 92, my mother then died within ten days, of a broken heart ...of this I am absolutely sure..

They specified that their ashes were to be scattered over Lake Tahoe, but the plane had broken down when my father had died and it took over a week to repair it. On the advice of the airline service, I then had BOTH the sets of their ashes, scattered together at the same time, together in death... as in life.

I would love to end this way myself one day (sometimes the screen gets blurry around here)

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A couple of things I remember,

Each morning before the day began, they would embrace and kiss in the kitchen, before the day began, and murmur "I love you" to each other --- up to the very ends of their lives


Each put concern of the other before their own, in equal measure

They NEVER raised their voice in anger and never struck one another. Not even ONE time.

Disagreements were settled by compromising and putting the other first. There was no "balance sheet". They were a perfect match for one another.



I would like to think, that their legacy to me of their love, is the very best thing I could offer,to someone, if I ever got married again. To be like that, if graced wih the chance.

It *can* work. They are proof positive it can...

What a terrific thread. The above are some of the most beautiful posts I've read on these boards.

This is the thing that we all seek so desperately to find.


One of the things I think that hangs me up in relationships is when I'm operating more from my head than my heart.

Coming from the heart FEELS better, but jayjay is right, it's a huge risk to make oneself so vulnerable....and any time the person you're with acts in a manner that's inconsistent with the heart, the head starts chattering about being taken advantage of, being a fool, not getting what you're due...etc. etc.

Obviously the head is there to protect us and there are times when we're not in the right relationship and we ARE getting taken advantage of, being played a fool, etc. . But if you're in a relationship that is largely very good, giving in to the demands of your head (or maybe your ego is a better way to put it?) might just be what's keeping that good relationship to being truly great, like j8a and her husband, and 6dle's parents had.

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By the say, I'm using the general "you" here....I've done all this too.....



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richey wrote :
I used to wonder this a lot myself. The answer is this: you meet the right person.

When this happens.... everthing goes out the window and changes. Maybe the REAL SECRET to love and relationships is similar to what somebody told me one day (he was a car salesman....):



If a "customer" isn't really interested in purchasing a product, there really isn't anything a sales person can do. But if the "right" customer comes along and really wants a product, the salesman doesn't really have to do anything to get maximum profit for the sale.

Maybe the secret to love/relationships is to be more accepting of the idea that a lot of the people we date are NOT the right "customer" or "match" and we all need to stop forcing bad relationships and be more willing to move on. Maybe the secret is we need to realize and put the emphasis more on how good of a match/compatible person is this, rather than what we should be doing or they should be doing to make it work..... and just admit more than we like, "this isn't going to work."

Richey
Nice post, Richey. This is kind of the way I look at it too. A romantic outcome is really only the right outcome if both people are 100 percent interested in that.
 
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