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Seuss is offline Seuss Post #1  November 20,2009, 9:29am
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I met a lady online here about two months ago and we went out on a few dates. We chatted daily and got pretty close. She was going through a divorce (it was finalized while we were together), but that was OK with me--it was over for years anyway.

So we were close and I developed some real feelings for her. Then the divorce went through and she got all freaked out and pulled way back. I kept trying to make dates with her, then her kids got sick, then she got sick, then she got sick again, then her job got crazy. So she basically said she has a lot going on and didn't have room for a boyfriend, but that there was "potential" there. She was honest from the start about that.

Last week she and I had tentative plans to go to dinner, but again, she got the flu. I called Saturday and offered to bring her some food and she said something akin to, "it's too much work trying to date you, all I can offer is friendship." I responded the only way I could--saying that was fine, that I cared about her and that if she wanted more, she knew where to find me.

I was crushed, but not really surprised. I didn't expect to develop such strong feelings for her, but I did. She dumped all her divorce baggage on me and I listened. She invited me over to meet her kids and did all the things that suggested a relationship was possible.

So Thursday my buddy with whom she works calls and invites me to a football party on Saturday. Today, she calls him, having heard about the party, and invites herself, her kids, and some other guy she knows from way back who is "a friend." She sends me an E-mail to let me know she'll be there with kids and this other guy and that she hopes she and I can be friends like this guy and she are.

So here I am with a raw wound from a woman I care very much about kind of dumping me, but she just invites herself into my life through my friends and brings another guy along, too?!? She doesn't have time for me, but she has time for this? I'm too much work as a single guy with no kids who is attentive and just wants to treat her well?!?

I'm not sure if I should be pissed off. I am, but is this "I'm only being honest and friendship is all I'm offering" legitimate armor against hurting me? I don't think so. Even if she wasn't bringing another guy, I don't know that I'm ready to spend platonic time with her after being "dumped" a week ago. However, I suppose this demonstrates that I was much more attached to her than she was to me. That hurts, too.

So what the hell? Thoughts?
 
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She used her for support until her divorce was final but had another guy who refused to go out with her until the divorce was final. She used you. Be polite at the party but dont waste your time.

If there was any relationship stuff or was it just friendship. If it seemed to be a relationship then remind her it was your loss.

I wouldnt be suprised if she contacts you again when she breaks up with this new guy.
 
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This is a woman who doesn't know what she feels and primarily seems to be thinking of herself at the moment. This is a common state people fall into when in a very stressful situation like divorce. Clearly, she doesn't want a scene at the party she invited herself to. /shrug

Maybe in a year or two after she's back to normal you might see how she is doing if you still care. But personally I would just give her all the space she needs and more.
 
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I met a lady online here about two months ago and we went out on a few dates. We chatted daily and got pretty close. She was going through a divorce (it was finalized while we were together), but that was OK with me--it was over for years anyway.

So we were close and I developed some real feelings for her. Then the divorce went through and she got all freaked out and pulled way back. I kept trying to make dates with her, then her kids got sick, then she got sick, then she got sick again, then her job got crazy. So she basically said she has a lot going on and didn't have room for a boyfriend, but that there was "potential" there. She was honest from the start about that.

Last week she and I had tentative plans to go to dinner, but again, she got the flu. I called Saturday and offered to bring her some food and she said something akin to, "it's too much work trying to date you, all I can offer is friendship." I responded the only way I could--saying that was fine, that I cared about her and that if she wanted more, she knew where to find me.

I was crushed, but not really surprised. I didn't expect to develop such strong feelings for her, but I did. She dumped all her divorce baggage on me and I listened. She invited me over to meet her kids and did all the things that suggested a relationship was possible.

So Thursday my buddy with whom she works calls and invites me to a football party on Saturday. Today, she calls him, having heard about the party, and invites herself, her kids, and some other guy she knows from way back who is "a friend." She sends me an E-mail to let me know she'll be there with kids and this other guy and that she hopes she and I can be friends like this guy and she are.

So here I am with a raw wound from a woman I care very much about kind of dumping me, but she just invites herself into my life through my friends and brings another guy along, too?!? She doesn't have time for me, but she has time for this? I'm too much work as a single guy with no kids who is attentive and just wants to treat her well?!?

I'm not sure if I should be pissed off. I am, but is this "I'm only being honest and friendship is all I'm offering" legitimate armor against hurting me? I don't think so. Even if she wasn't bringing another guy, I don't know that I'm ready to spend platonic time with her after being "dumped" a week ago. However, I suppose this demonstrates that I was much more attached to her than she was to me. That hurts, too.

So what the hell? Thoughts?
Just because someone is being honest doesn't give them a right to be cruel. I believe this is the first time I have ever seen "honesty" used as a weapon to manipulate. Interesting.

Sorry don't mean to make this a case study. There is something very wrong here I am just having trouble pulling it together to explain to you. If I were you I would call your friend having the party and explain what is going on because she is she manipulating him as well. More than anything walk away and don't look back. This is not an emotional issue but a personality disorder.

Really if you want me to explain I will come back to this tonight. I just don't have the ability at work to analyze this properly. Hell message me if you like.

Ahh see it came back. Silly modded post.
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When one is going through a divorce they should not begin dating in less than a full year after the divorce is final. Period. It may take even longer before they are ready to begin anew.

The same advice would apply to someone who is thinking of dating a recently divorced person.

As far as the party, I would tell my friend that I will not be attending. If he asks I would be quite upfront about the reason. But then I am that kind of guy.
 
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You were her crutch through the divorce and her rebound guy. She is now free and done and trying to move on. She kind of wants to keep you around for company, a just in case she needs a crutch again kind of a thing, but really she is done with you.

This is a classic why you should not get involved with married people, people going through a divorce, people fresh out of a relationship, etc.
 
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So I got modded, surprising. Clearly I have a different perception of swear words.

In case it doesn't show up here is my reply in a nutshell. She is using honesty as a weapon to manipulate you. I don't have the time to pull my thoughts and analysis together to explain to you why but this is not an emotional issue this is a personalty disorder. You need to call your friend having the party and explain what is going on because he is being pulled into this as well.

Walk away and don't look back. Pray for her children.
 
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I agree with many of the other posts. It appears she used you, whether intentional or not, as a crutch for her support system to get her over the hump of her divorce.

Nobody is that busy or gets that frequently sick without somehow having a tiny bit of time in between to meet with someone they are genuinely interested in.

Unless you saw this great foundation for a friendship, I don't even think it's worth it to be friends with her. I would say move on. Unless all your friends will be at this party and they are more your friends than hers, I may even suggest not going to the party. If you do go, be polite but I wouldn't offer more than a hello and goodbye towards her and her kids/date.
 
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Gr8Guyn2008 wrote :
When one is going through a divorce they should not begin dating in less than a full year after the divorce is final. Period. It may take even longer before they are ready to begin anew.

The same advice would apply to someone who is thinking of dating a recently divorced person.

As far as the party, I would tell my friend that I will not be attending. If he asks I would be quite upfront about the reason. But then I am that kind of guy.
I agree with this assessment. Divorce is a hard thing to take, and she apparently didn't know how to deal with it properly, if there is such a way to deal with it, that is. Unfortunately, she did use you, but she may change her ways and think that hey, he was there for me through the good times and the bad, it's just too bad she isn't thinking that way now. I know that would be going through my head. She sounds like she's not thinking clearly,and is about to make some bad decision, we all do that when we are stressed out. It's up to you if you want to stick around and see what happens next.
 
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Seuss wrote :
I over-analyze everything, from her not calling/texting/E-mailing, to whether I should have sent flowers after she finished a particularly rough day, or whether I'm becoming "trying too hard guy" by planning great dates. For instance, she's had a hard week, and I sent her flowers today because of a victory she scored yesterday. For the past 10 days or so, however, she has simply been downloading all her baggage on to me, and now I'm worried that I'm moving over into the friend pile instead of the lover pile, and that between flowers and a whole-day date planned for Saturday, I might be trying too hard. I don't just want to be her buddy, you know?
Same woman?

This is why I hate to analyze people online. Everyone hides little bits of relevant information. It would appear she wanted a friend and only a friend. You have a choice, back off and be just her friend or walk away.
 
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