Does a woman's financial well being, profession, and wage matter to the men?


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my5cents is offline my5cents Post #1  November 19,2009, 1:31pm
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I have recently gone on a few dates with men that I have met online. During the first "meet and greet" I have gotten what I would deem inappropriate questions to ask when first meeting a person. Some of these questions have been: Do you have any debt? Do you have savings? When do you think you'll look for a job in a more stable industry? How many hours per week do you work?

While I've answered these questions honestly, it has made me wonder why they ask. I am by no means a gold digger, I have a career that I love, and while I'm not rolling in the dough I am able to afford some of the finer things in life -debt free. Are they afraid that I'll mooch off them, or are they just so stingy they don't even want to think of ever having to support a woman - the thought of "my money is my money and her money is her money?" I'm a fairly generous woman and I enjoy giving to those who I care about. If ever I was with a man who I cared about who needed to rely on me to support him, I'd be there. No questions. I also want a man who feels the same way, but it seems that with some men they may not feel the same way.

I feel that the first meet and greet should be more about how two people get along, if there is chemistry, and if the two people like each other's company. It could be me but it seems that in a way online dating gets to the nitty gritty in the profile, so the man in my case feels free to continue the check off list during the 1st date/meet n' greet.

The one date I had recently who I didn't meet online did not ask about my financial status. We covered jobs briefly, hobbies, travel, the great outdoors, and it was absolutely refreshing.

So a question to the men since I've noticed on some profiles on other sites that it's important that a woman makes a certain wage, etc.: Does it matter to you men what a woman does for her profession, that she make a certain amount, that she work a certain amount of hours per week, and that financially you'll never have to help her out?
 
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To me it does not really matter what a womans job or career is, nor if she has a house, saving, big retirement fund or much else for that matter.

What matters is who she is as a person and how well we communicate. Respect and some good chemistry goes a lot further than any paycheck ever will. Just my humble opinion.
 
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it is unfortunate that you have gone out with a few men who seem to have no tact. i would certainly not be so blunt or up front.

but to your question- it is important to me that a lady be gainfully employed and be able to demonstrate independence.
 
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So long as she makes an honest living and knows how to take care of herself, I don't care what her job is or how much she makes.
 
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Personally, I wouldn't answer those questions.

My family doesn't even know that information in much detail.

A virtual stranger certainly isn't going to know it.
 
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This goes both ways where both sexes will ask questions on financial situations because it is part of the relationship if it becomes something.

On the second or first date its not important to bring it up out of the blue but it can come up as part of the conversation. Each will ask about your job and if you said you were unemployed or worked in a low payoing job that may raise follow-up questions.

Personally it is an issue with who I date because of my experience with my ex-wife regarding her not working which caused a financial strain. I wasnt expecting her to make an exorbanent amopunt of money but at least earning some money and contributing her part. No her job wasnt for her personal savings.

I believe in total equity in a relationship.
I also would not at all be offended if she made more than me because of her career choice as opposed to mine.
 
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bigfincat wrote :
Personally, I wouldn't answer those questions.

My family doesn't even know that information in much detail.

A virtual stranger certainly isn't going to know it.
On my last date I almost stopped the date and wanted to ask, "Why does it matter to you so much?" I did not because I didn't want to make the date more awkward. I guess I'm a little too nice and try to be really polite. Some of my friends ask why I don't ask these questions back to the men, and I can only say, "Because it's rude!"
 
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I go to Los Angeles all the time, and I have never seen such a plethora of hot looking beautiful women there, and so sexily dressed all the time, a lot of them trying like crazy to get into the entertainment business. As actresses, directors, screenwriters, publicists, post-production, music, you name it -- whatever.....

But they are mostly all screwed up, drugs, alcohol, lotsa divorces, walking petri dishes of STD's --- whatever.

Guess what:

MEN screwed most of them up.


I'll take a pass on all that. It is a real scene!!


Even though they mostly drive newish Mercedes Benzes. A "Beverly Hills Volkswagen" is what they are called, around the West side, and it means nothing about good taste.

It's all too surreal: "just another day, in Hollywood; just another night, up in the Canyon..." (Laurel Canyon presumably...) "Counting Crows" nailed it, well.


Maybe I'd be better off in Kansas. I dunno...
 
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Financial situation and choices are some of the best criteria to use in selecting a partner; they are some the most important to survival of a relationship. Probably you are comfortable disclosing your religion, status of children, etc, on your profile. Money goes right to the heart of how we live, why we live as we do, what our “norm” for connectedness to society is, what our future may be expected to encompass. Also, it customarily defines our role in our relationships. These are very substantial matters, best evaluated as soon as possible.

These questions are especially appropriate if you not appear to have a clear job, are different from other people, or imprecise / vague in your answers to common questions. This could include driving a very nice or decrepit car, where you try to go on your dates, how you speak about your life (bemoaning costs, etc.)

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I think these questions are right. While I get them very often from women, so long as she answers them in return, it does not bother me. I agree with screening partners before investing months / years, or potentially being emotionally attached to someone who is ultimately not a suitable partner.

Are they afraid that I'll mooch off them, or are they just so stingy they don't even want to think of ever having to support a woman - the thought of "my money is my money and her money is her money?"

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my5cents wrote :
I feel that the first meet and greet should be more about how two people get along, if there is chemistry, and if the two people like each other's company. It could be me but it seems that in a way online dating gets to the nitty gritty in the profile, so the man in my case feels free to continue the check off list during the 1st date/meet n' greet.

The one date I had recently who I didn't meet online did not ask about my financial status. We covered jobs briefly, hobbies, travel, the great outdoors, and it was absolutely refreshing.

So a question to the men since I've noticed on some profiles on other sites that it's important that a woman makes a certain wage, etc.: Does it matter to you men what a woman does for her profession, that she make a certain amount, that she work a certain amount of hours per week, and that financially you'll never have to help her out?
I completely agree with your approach to the first meeting. Sadly, it's not just men who continue the check off list when meeting IRL.

I do consider what the woman does for a living as an element of compatibility in terms of ambition, commitment to work, intellectual curiosity, work schedule, etc.

For example, I work relatively regular hours and have found it difficult to be involved with someone who works shifts.

Income is not as important as financial responsibility. I went on a date with a woman who claimed to make $100K plus (no I didn't ask), who was clearly not financially responsible. Give me someone making half that who lives within their means anytime.
 
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