Does a woman's financial well being, profession, and wage matter to the men?


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roguewolf1 is offline roguewolf1 Post #131  November 27,2009, 6:16pm

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OH yeah I won't even sniff at a woman unless she has proven to me she can step on bodies to conquer the corporate ladder, has bought her first Island and her portfolio includes having bought a winery, owns a diamond cave or at the very least, she has 250,000 shares in a gold company.

Those questions asked are old sales tactic. Put the pressure on the other person so you appear to gain an immediate psychological edge and leverage. Some of it is to create an illusion of success on the part of the questioner.

You never know how many of the fellas asking those questions might actually be making a low income or are unemployed. And even if they are making loads of money, if they are that shallow, maybe it's better to let them find their shallow partner of their dreams?

I've had women on EHarmony who's first questions included financial ones "how are you financially off?" Complete turnoff. If that's all they are interested in, I help them find their "dream partner" by closing them out.

For me #1 is both her looks and personality. Either she's a good looker and I'm trying to confirm my opinion that she also has a good personality (good fit.) Or she's got a great personality and I'm confirming that.

If I was into a woman who made a lot of money, I'd target women with careers that make lots of payola. Nah give me a good woman anyday over a millionaire woman who isn't a good fit.


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I have recently gone on a few dates with men that I have met online. During the first "meet and greet" I have gotten what I would deem inappropriate questions to ask when first meeting a person. Some of these questions have been: Do you have any debt? Do you have savings? When do you think you'll look for a job in a more stable industry? How many hours per week do you work?

While I've answered these questions honestly, it has made me wonder why they ask. I am by no means a gold digger, I have a career that I love, and while I'm not rolling in the dough I am able to afford some of the finer things in life -debt free. Are they afraid that I'll mooch off them, or are they just so stingy they don't even want to think of ever having to support a woman - the thought of "my money is my money and her money is her money?" I'm a fairly generous woman and I enjoy giving to those who I care about. If ever I was with a man who I cared about who needed to rely on me to support him, I'd be there. No questions. I also want a man who feels the same way, but it seems that with some men they may not feel the same way.

I feel that the first meet and greet should be more about how two people get along, if there is chemistry, and if the two people like each other's company. It could be me but it seems that in a way online dating gets to the nitty gritty in the profile, so the man in my case feels free to continue the check off list during the 1st date/meet n' greet.

The one date I had recently who I didn't meet online did not ask about my financial status. We covered jobs briefly, hobbies, travel, the great outdoors, and it was absolutely refreshing.

So a question to the men since I've noticed on some profiles on other sites that it's important that a woman makes a certain wage, etc.: Does it matter to you men what a woman does for her profession, that she make a certain amount, that she work a certain amount of hours per week, and that financially you'll never have to help her out?
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I never that I thought it was fair for women to do it.

I don't think it's a particularly useful tool when either gender does it - basing a relationship on what you can get from it is just a recipe for unhappiness, and "ambition" can be defined in so many ways that I don't think the questions cover it in such a way that all people are given a fair chance.

But whatever.
Its not about what I can or cant "get" out of the relationship - its about trying to avoid a toxic individual. Ambition can take on a lot of different meanings. For me, if someone is content to do more than skate through life and is actually demonstrating they are working towards it then they would be someone worthwhile.

I know a lot of women who were raised under the "find a good man and be a good wife" mantra and this doens't excite me in the slightest.
 
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I know a lot of women who were raised under the "find a good man and be a good wife" mantra and this doens't excite me in the slightest.
Huh? So what are you looking for? Someone who doesn't intend to be a good wife? That makes no sense.
 
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Huh? So what are you looking for? Someone who doesn't intend to be a good wife? That makes no sense.
Think about it for a second. im not looking at the moment, but if I were, that person would want to do more with their life than simply be a spouse to someone else.
 
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Restaurant server and part-time student at 26 doesn't seem attractive to me whether she wants money out of me or not.
Please send all hot 26-year-old waitresses you meet my way.
 
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Old Chinese saying "when man tell truth about relationship, woman over cook his noodle."

Funny whenever a man tells the truth, he is attacked by the same personalities.

Who incidentally all advocate men tell the truth. Repeat cycle.


Its not about what I can or cant "get" out of the relationship - its about trying to avoid a toxic individual. Ambition can take on a lot of different meanings. For me, if someone is content to do more than skate through life and is actually demonstrating they are working towards it then they would be someone worthwhile.

I know a lot of women who were raised under the "find a good man and be a good wife" mantra and this doens't excite me in the slightest.

Faira wrote :
I never that I thought it was fair for women to do it.

I don't think it's a particularly useful tool when either gender does it - basing a relationship on what you can get from it is just a recipe for unhappiness, and "ambition" can be defined in so many ways that I don't think the questions cover it in such a way that all people are given a fair chance.

But whatever.
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #137  November 27,2009, 9:37pm
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Think about it for a second. im not looking at the moment, but if I were, that person would want to do more with their life than simply be a spouse to someone else.
I don't view being a good executive, lawyer or any other type of career as inherently better than being a good spouse. If anything I view the ability to form and maintain good personal relationships as more valuable than a successful career. That's certainly what I look for in a spouse.
 
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roguewolf1 wrote :
Old Chinese saying "when man tell truth about relationship, woman over cook his noodle."

Funny whenever a man tells the truth, he is attacked by the same personalities.

Who incidentally all advocate men tell the truth. Repeat cycle.
When someone asks you to tell the truth...they aren't guaranteeing they'll like what you have to say.
 
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Good words to remember. Perhaps that's part of the game between men and women. And people in general.

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When someone asks you to tell the truth...they aren't guaranteeing they'll like what you have to say.
 
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lol
for some reason I kept thinking about that freecreditreport.com commercial where he marries his "Dream Girl" but she ends up having bad credit so they have to shack up with her parents.

I find it pretty sad/hilarious that at the end of the jingle he says he'd rather be a bachelor with an awesome pad instead of a (albeit) awkward living situation with his soul mate.

sadly capitalism has a backdoor of sorts into the hearts of the people who lack the ability to see past the age-old trick of social proofing. We end up valuing things--"symbols" of status over real life experiences/character, and people.
great call, thanks for the post... ya without the people what would you have? A Christmas Carol anyone?
 
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