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rRACINGRANDY is offline rRACINGRANDY Post #1  November 8,2009, 10:55pm
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Over the past few years, I have been advocating to others to "listen to your gut" on or after the first set of dates. Your gut is rarely wrong. It's your first line of defense and is usually based on past experiences of validated "huntches". But even I am guilty of not following through.

My date this past Thursday night was full of warning signs. First was the fact that she did not give me her telephone number. Everything was set up through e-mail. Secondly, she arrived 15 minutes late for the first meet up/date. Her excuse.?..."parking was difficult." But then I noticed as I was walking her to her car that she had a close parking space. Third...during the date, she disclosed that she had been texting a male companion every morning for the past two weeks. She further commented that she enjoyed them and it was like a "cat and mouse" game. Although the date went went (3 hours) she did not reply to my post "thank you" for a wonderful date until Sunday late night....almost three days later. At this point she had told me she had met another guy and wished me the best of luck.

Despite all the warning signs....the 3 sentence rejection e-mail still hurt. Perhaps because she was fairly attractive. Seemed really smart. And the initial e-mails were fun and full of energy. And after she arrived late, we had a good time.

So why despite the warning signs...does it still hurt??

And why do I continue to get involved with these types of women?
 
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bwr is offline bwr Post #2  November 8,2009, 11:37pm
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You need more experience getting rejected, simple as that, until you realize the time, effort, and hurt just isn't worth it. When I was younger I fell in the same traps you did. And I got hurt and confused all the time.

When we were kids, we would still rebel and do something even though our parents told us it was wrong. It was only after we actually got stung and burned did we realize "Yeah, my parents were right. It is wrong".

People and our gut instincts can tell us what we are doing wrong. But until we actually experience it ourself and actually fail over and over again, only then we realize its wrong and actually start trusting our guts.

Experience rules.
 
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Many times we "hear" our gut, but we don't actually "listen" to it.


However.. Not sure how much you can listen to your gut when you are meeting someone for the first time. You don't know them yet, so you have no way to protect yourself or see a rejection coming. Most of us have just learned to guard our expectations early on in the dating process and not let people we barely know make us feel sad or dejected.

Don't be too hard on yourself.
 
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It's so hard to go on previous experiences as I seem to date really well. This one lasted 3 hours.

I think perhaps it's best for me to stick with my gut. And also to put a time limit on the first date. Although this might not make any sense, I can put a restriction on what I tell my date and divulge.

Also....any woman that shows up 10-15 minutes late on a first date without calling....is just plain rude. I keep hearing about the male being late but it works both ways. And secondly...any woman that talks about a current love interest while your on a date with her......is also a warning sign.

Seems to me...once she disappeared early last week from communicating to me.......it should of all ended.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #5  November 9,2009, 5:15am
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rRACINGRANDY wrote :
I think perhaps it's best for me to stick with my gut.
I really don't get what 'sticking with your gut' would have meant in this circumstance. From what I gather you went on 1 date with this woman...and the things you learned about her mostly happened on this date, so sticking with your gut wouldn't have meant not going on this date. It sounds like you might just be talking about getting your hopes up.

FWIW someone being 10-15 minutes late is somewhat minimal to me. Doing that one time wouldn't be a big deal for me.
 
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As jayjay says you only had a first date. Somewhere along the line you built this into a fantasy relationship that was not there.

Maybe the problem is that you "date really well" so you expect that every girl you go out with is going to to be awestruck by you.
 
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jayjay wrote :
I really don't get what 'sticking with your gut' would have meant in this circumstance. From what I gather you went on 1 date with this woman...and the things you learned about her mostly happened on this date, so sticking with your gut wouldn't have meant not going on this date. It sounds like you might just be talking about getting your hopes up.

FWIW someone being 10-15 minutes late is somewhat minimal to me. Doing that one time wouldn't be a big deal for me.
I tend to agree with Jayjay that 15 minutes is not all that excessive as long as it's not a habit.

I also do not think it's wrong for the woman to set up the date from eHarm or other online dating without giving out her telephone number. Dr. Warren's lengthy letter actually suggests it for safety reasons. And given the recent near stalker experience of one of our posters over what was just a first-time coffee ... I think it's wise.

It does seem very low class for her to mention how she is texting with some other guy and enjoys the cat and mouse game. I agree, it was a warning sign that this particular woman might not really be worth dating further.

Seems like you may have dodged a bullet if she's now turning her charm elsewhere.
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb. I may be right, i may be wrong on this. Bear with me.

Is it a possibility that within yourself, you are putting way too much emphasis on success on these dates prematurely? I can understand disappointment that things didn't work out, but the way i read your post, you're genuinely hurt. To be hurt on the first date means one of two things. First, your date went above and beyond the call of duty to hurt you. I'm thinking along the lines of meeting you, deciding you were not for her, hooked up with some guy at the bar while you were waiting for her to get back from the bathroom and stuck you with the check, kind of hurt. (Oh, btw, this did happen to me. She actually called me later that week and wondered what she did wrong)

Or #2, you're opened yourself up too much, too fast, too soon.

I am thinking what is happening and has happened is #2, you're putting way too much emphasis on success and not enough emphasis on yourself. This person, like you said, was totally wrong for you, yet you still feel hurt. Instead of feeling hurt, feel relieved that you didn't go down the wrong road and relish in the fact that the next date you go on will be better.

I'm also going to guess that you are opening yourself up because you're asking for permission to date. Follow me here. It seems to me that you maybe hoping that this other person you're dating likes you. Now we all do that when we're dating someone we like, but at the same time, you're disregarding yourself when you do something like this. Its easy to do really, but at the same time, its not doing you any favors and makes you look spineless. It subtly portrays you as someone who has no sense of self and is solely around for your date's approval.

Instead of seeking approval, try this instead. Go into a date looking to have a good time. Go into the date as a salesman. Go in to sell yourself and enjoy yourself while doing it. If you "make the sale" ie, your date really likes you, great, go with it. But if you don't make the sale, move on to the next date. This way, you'll have fun on the date regardless of outcome, and if you genuinely have fun instead of worrying if you're doing this or that right, you WILL show a much better side of you and make a way better impression.
 
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Anyone who mentioned texting someone else, an ex, a girl/guy they last went out with...be very careful, First dates should be reserved for a nice getting to know you. The minute she mentioned the other guy she was into him. Sorry she lead you on, that is not cool.
 
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The key is just not to let yourself get hurt. In fact if you do have a bad gut feeling about a date then deal with it, perhaps by getting your "no chemistry" e-mail in first.

I agree with the above posters, 15 mins late is not a big deal at all. I have heard of people who ended up happily married with the very first person they contacted on a dating website, but these are in the minority. You have to expect a lot of so- so dates and let downs before finding someone you can have a relationship with. Maybe even as many as 10-20 seperate dates before you find someone you click with.

Thats just the way it is, best advice is just to get over it. And please spell diminish properly! diminish - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
 
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