Well, I think a Lady should ask me Out!

Wow clever. So you are saying that men you date should expect that in no point in time there will be relations? Are you judging my time frame? Okay here is a crazy idea when I date men I have an expectation that there will be relations at some point in time when we are both comfortable. Ohh wouldn't that be a fun thread, women that ask men out expect that in some point in their relationship there will be relations. Ohh the horror.

How about we stop judging each other. I would be fine with that.


Thank you.

By discussing the conservative or liberal nature of a community you are implicitly claiming there is a correlation between general political opinion and a male reaction to being asked out. There is none. I asked my ex-boyfriend out that lasted for two and a half years. Actually of the gentlemen I have dated lately only one has asked me out. All have expressed relief in me asking them out since they were too scared to ask me. I live in a conservative community yet I have never met a man that fits your assertions. I don't doubt they exist here it is just there is no correlation.

People here are drawing such broad stokes it almost makes me sick. Every person is different. I do not want nor do I attract men that have a problem with women asking them out. They are used to viewing women as equals. Sorry if this doesn't fit into your stereotype. I understand that there are women that would never ask a guy out and they tend to attract and be attracted to men who will ask them out.

I am not singling anyone out but there are a lot of ignorant and self righteous posts here that cast those that don't fit their ideals in a bad light. I do take offense.

My point in the original thread was that some men (perhaps only in my own ultra conservative community) can be pretty obnoxious about assumptions of your easiness if you ask them out. You're not thwarting any such expectation as far as I can tell ...

And I'm not judging you for it either. This is right for you with this man or obviously you wouldn't be doing it. But you really wouldn't have the same experience I've had until you go and thwart their expectation.

I do happen to think people are far too prudish about such things.

How well do women deal with rejection if they ask a man out and he declines?

I read further and saw your next post. Oops sorry about that. I just don't like to remove posts once posted.

I don't think looking at a community and saying they are liberal or conservative is a good indicator of opinion this subject. The perception of women who ask men out is based on too many factors. One would be upbringing, next your experience (negative or positive), introvert vs. extrovert, LOC I could go on. In the end you are looking at opinion that is never verified in a controlled manner.

So dude A says women who ask men out are easy. Has dude A ever been asked out by a women? Has dude A ever been asked out with a women that he slept with? How long after the first date did he sleep with her? How long after first date does dude A usually get lucky? Does dude A have issues with strong women? Does dude A want to date a strong women and has no luck?

I could do this on the other side as to why dudette B believes dude A when he makes that statements.

Am I wrong that such a broad group as a community yields no valuable data?