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pds857 is offline pds857 Post #1  November 4,2009, 1:08pm
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[I snipped this * part outta online artical. If you wanna read the whole thing the link will be at the bottom of this post. ]

*The evidence has become clear that the purpose of Pheromones is to stimulate attraction in members of the opposite sex.
This has been borne out in various scientific studies on animals as well as a famous "twins" study done by the ABC News show 20/20.

To test whether pheromones really work 20/20 sent sets of identical male and female twins to a speed-dating event and gave them each a scent - one twin in each set received a scent containing pheromones. No one knew who had what.

They went on 10 dates each lasting five minutes. The daters then completed forms stating which of the people they would like to see again.
At the end of the evening they tallied the results: Nine men wanted to see Sarah again and five men wanted to see Bridget again.
As for the guys, 10 women were interested in Dave and only six women were interested in Paul.

Sarah and Dave were wearing the pheromones.*


So my question is, do ya'll really think that its all pheromones, or
somethin else? Can some lil gland thing inside your nose tell you
who your gonna get along better with? Or do ya think its a lot more complicated than this?

I personally think its a lot more complicated than this. But thats jus
my opinion. What do ya'll think?







[as promised here is the link How Life Works | Pheromones: The Scientific Explanation for Sexual Attraction ]
 
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Yup, that's all there is to it.

I've also read the theory that we are attracted to people whose immune systems are complementary to our own .... because our offspring will have a better immune system by combining our DNA so is a survival benefit. Perhaps the pheromones signal this in some way?
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #3  November 4,2009, 1:27pm
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...things seem to have gotten quiet around here.

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Those kinds of 'studies' they do on TV programs generally don't 'prove' anything. They don't involve enough subjects and don't do any type of analysis to determine if the observed effect might only be due to chance. That doesn't mean that pheremones don't have an effect....just that the results of the 20/20 study probably don't mean anything. It just made for amusing TV.
 
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pds857 is offline pds857 Post #4  November 4,2009, 1:34pm
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I jus cant believe that my heart and mind dont play a big part in
who I'm attracted to.
To say that I'm attracted to 'Bob' an have Nothin in common, no physical desires, jus attracted at some base level instinct is ridiculous to me.

When I meet someone I get to know them, an then deside if I'm attracted or not. I dont go up an sniff em an then process that information into yea, he'd be a Great baby maker, so I need to jump on it!

I jus dont see myself as a passive participant in this whole thing we call love.
 
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trixie1868 is offline trixie1868 Post #5  November 4,2009, 1:37pm

what the bejeezus is going on round here?!

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I completely believe it. Why not? It's only going to be something else as equally implausible so pheromones it is.
 
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pds857 wrote :
I jus cant believe that my heart and mind dont play a big part in
who I'm attracted to.
To say that I'm attracted to 'Bob' an have Nothin in common, no physical desires, jus attracted at some base level instinct is ridiculous to me.

When I meet someone I get to know them, an then deside if I'm attracted or not. I dont go up an sniff em an then process that information into yea, he'd be a Great baby maker, so I need to jump on it!

I jus dont see myself as a passive participant in this whole thing we call love.
But that's part of the question.....whether our perception of 'deciding' is actually real. I've read about a number of behaviors that we think are entirely 'chosen' are substantially affected by our biology. Also...social-psychological experiments have shown people will actually do things that we'd swear we'd never do.

However, do note that most of these types of experiments involve only a very short, cursory meeting....and so are probably more related to an initial, almost instant, creation of attraction. What you mention are longer term factors that probably aren't studied as much due to their complexity (as well as ethical factors).
 
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Personally, I don't really believe it. Haven't you ever seen someone from a distance in a crowd of people and had that sense of attraction? Or even a voice? Or what about suddenly finding you're wildly attracted to someone you've known for years? Maybe pheremones play some small part in cementing it once you're there, but we are complex, complex, complex creatures. I think it's much more sensory.
 
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Bullcrumble!

In high school I knew a set of identical twins, D & L. I knew them well enough to see and speak to them everyday and they were identical enough so that I was never able to tell them apart without speaking to them. I would have been quite happy to have dated D but had no desire to spend much time at all with L. I don't think that either one of them were dousing themselves in pheromones. Not sure pheromones had even been invented back then.
 
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pds857 wrote :
I just cant believe that my heart and mind don't play a big part in who I'm attracted to.
To say that I'm attracted to 'Bob' an have Nothing in common, no physical desires, just attracted at some base level instinct is ridiculous to me.

When I meet someone I get to know them, an then decide if I'm attracted or not. I don't go up an sniff em an then process that information into yea, he'd be a Great baby maker, so I need to jump on it!

I just don't see myself as a passive participant in this whole thing we call love.
It is actually birth order that makes the difference.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #10  November 4,2009, 7:05pm
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chrysalis08 wrote :
Personally, I don't really believe it. Haven't you ever seen someone from a distance in a crowd of people and had that sense of attraction? Or even a voice? Or what about suddenly finding you're wildly attracted to someone you've known for years? Maybe pheremones play some small part in cementing it once you're there, but we are complex, complex, complex creatures. I think it's much more sensory.
Remember....the 'study' cited in the original post was conducted with identical twins, thereby equalizing as many other things such as looks as possible. This doesn't mean that the things you mention aren't also relevant....or that pheremones aren't relevant. It all can be. Still....it's pretty impressive if little things such as smell can have a significant effect.
 
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