bravethestorm is offline bravethestorm Post #51  November 3,2009, 11:16pm
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I think both genders have trouble articulating exactly why a possible relationship doesn't work for them. Many avoid replying at all just to not make a comment that lists where the individual fails to live up to their expectations. That's probably why you got the more general comments and the nice guy comment instead. It's like a way to soften the blow... "you're a nice guy but the right guy for someone else".

Just be yourself...everyone likes different things. Some like old fashioned...some like respect...but it's about finding the right person for you. Simply your values must match up on key points for a relationship to work.

Good luck with your search!
 
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Annnnne wrote :
You have to be true to yourself and if thats what you value keep doing it. You will find a woman who appreciates it.

I personally appreciate this type of behavior and if a man doesnt do it then I'm not that into him.

I agree...but if you find it being a trend that the women you are dating are giving you this line then I would have to think either ....
a) maybe you are not dating the right women for you
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b) and I hate to admit this...like the frog alluded to earlier....you may not be exerting enough masculine energy

Otherwise keep being polite....or I will lose all hope in mankind my faith is already so fragile
 
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scarlet13 wrote :
you are dead to me.


Here is an excellent example of TOO NICE:

If I were to say, "Oh I am so sorry, here let me buy you a gallon of the finest hummus, you deserve it special girl"

/end example

In truth, you never know, some girls are actually into that stuff.
 
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Let me throw out a "Nice Guy" anecdote of a different sort:

A guy friend of mine would drop by every so often when he was back in town. We'd go out to eat, go to a movie, whatever, have great conversations and a generally good time. He was the conservative, old-fashioned type (though he was my age) who'd open doors, move in chairs, that sort of thing. But apart from those examples of "male chivalry," "going out" with him was no different from going out with any of my female friends (and even we women were always opening doors for each other or anybody else for that matter).

Then one day I got a letter from him, expressing his undying love. I was horrified. I'd never thought of him that way--he'd never even tried to hold my hand!--and couldn't think of him that way. We were friends, and far too different in our outlooks for any other kind of relationship: he wanted a stay-at-home wife & kids and I wanted a professional career and absolutely no kids, etc. When I turned him down, he began threatening me... and threatening to stalk me across state lines, and....

Well, okay, in the end he revealed himself as no "nice guy" at all, but up until then, he might as well have been one of the girls.
 
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kneo24 wrote :
Whether any of them want to admit it or not, they all want the alpha male. They don't necessarily want the jerk that tends to come attached to said personality, but they do want a guy who can show confidence, that can show that he can take charge. A guy who can stand on a mountain and beat his chest and scream really loud.
I'll admit it
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Mokkesofie wrote :
I'll admit it
me too.

I consider myself an alpha female. why would i want to mate with a low status male?

makes no sense.
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matt1982 wrote :
So I'm new to this posting thing... Hi Everybody! And I have a general question that probably doesn't need asking but I'm kind of fed up at the moment.

So the question is Are there any women out there that like the good guys? I was raised old fashioned and it was ground into my skull that you should always treat a woman with respect, I'm starting to wonder though if this is what women really want. I was told just yesterday that I was "too nice," all I did was open the doors for her and walked her to her car. This will be the 3rd first date in as many weeks, 1 "too old fashioned", 1 "too nice" and the other didn't reply to my call. Maybe the women and I see respectful as two different things?

Any comments?

Well, I am pretty good friends with one of the guys in the housekeeping crew that cleans the house every two weeks, and he is in his early 20s, as you appear to be, and he said

"The worse you treat them, the more they come back for more of it.

My friend left Natalie standing naked in the bedroom when he ran out of condoms.

And then, he went to play cards with his friends."

He was laughing about it.

LOLZ True story, and typical, there were lots more like that one.
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Well, I am pretty good friends with one of the guys in the housekeeping crew that cleans the house every two weeks, and he is in his early 20s, as you appear to be, and he said

"The worse you treat them, the more they come back for more of it.

My friend left Natalie standing naked in the bedroom when he ran out of condoms.

And then, he went to play cards with his friends."

He was laughing about it.

LOLZ True story, and typical, there were lots more like that one.
I think there are women who want a healthy, confident man....then there is the type that you describe. These are the women who are highly insecure and are looking to bolster their self esteem by trying to land these men. Of course, there's probably a lot of gray area in between these two types as well.
 
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I will likewise, too, admit to wanting an alpha male. Confidence, which is not to say cockiness, is sexy.

And some alpha males have manners, just as some beta males do not.
 
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SteveVance wrote :
Here is an excellent example of TOO NICE:

If I were to say, "Oh I am so sorry, here let me buy you a gallon of the finest hummus, you deserve it special girl"

/end example

In truth, you never know, some girls are actually into that stuff.
a better example would be if he said "I'll learn to like it, for you."
 
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