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No, I thought the whole post was forthright.

I am frustrated to keep seeing women's profiles demanding his income be higher than hers.

(Combined with affirmative action and the customary demand that he subsidize her dating, this is infuriating.)
I think one also needs to consider a person's environmental background and upbringing.

I was raised in So Cal (blah!) with my parents' mid-western values. They have been married over 44 years, yet, my dad holds my mother and her opinions in high regard, despite the "taditional roles" they carried. It's a very fine line.
 
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I get the same thing. I'm in Vegas, where money and silicone talk, and I've been told a few times that my attitude was "refreshing". Are we really that odd?
Oh, wow, Vegas?! I guess we are! That is completely and utterly sad!

The little town I live in, it's just around the corner from where the Real Housewives of Orange County is filmed LOL Honestly, less than 3 miles... So sad that they represent where I live
 
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Oh, wow, Vegas?! I guess we are! That is completely and utterly sad!

The little town I live in, it's just around the corner from where the Real Housewives of Orange County is filmed LOL Honestly, less than 3 miles... So sad that they represent where I live
Heh, I grew up in Orange County.

Too funny.
 
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Heh, I grew up in Orange County.

Too funny.
I always hate to admit that I was born and raised in So Cal... Such a horrible stigma attached to it!
 
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alissag wrote :
I always hate to admit that I was born and raised in So Cal... Such a horrible stigma attached to it!
True. It's assumed that, not only are you shallow, uptight and a golddigger, but you can't possibly be all that bright, either.
 
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True. It's assumed that, not only are you shallow, uptight and a golddigger, but you can't possibly be all that bright, either.
Yup, I have all that riding against me and the fact that I'm a blonde Pollack Bah Ha ha ha ha ha!
 
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I always hate to admit that I was born and raised in So Cal... Such a horrible stigma attached to it!
Don't you get some credit for having moved?
 
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Don't you get some credit for having moved?
For me at least, I doubt moving to Vegas is considered a step up.

Oh, and I'm a blonde, too. I thought everyone from there was...
 
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I think one also needs to consider a person's environmental background and upbringing.

I’ll admit that in real life when I actually got with a partner where I ended up paying most of the time she did indeed prove to be “traditional,” with the female performing the burdens of the traditional female role (cleaning and cooking in my house, with no asking on my part.)

Interestingly, these women had parents with the same idea: when I was in parents’ house, I ended up speaking with her father while she stayed with her mother (weird, but consistent.) There was a clear male hierarchy.

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This is a big issue, though: these women were very attuned to pleasing me (“is everything okay? Can I get you anything?”), and were not at all demanding (“Buy me that. Take me there.”)

Problems were: I still don’t get the 1950 style man / woman labor market outcome, so I can’t deal whether I want her or not; and these women were as boring as watching paint dry. I want the intellectual stimulation from my dating partners – it’s a big part of what I seek.

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I consider it a major distinction between a true traditional woman (subservient, supportive) and a greedy rent-seeker (demanding, whining, expecting), even though they may appear similar initially.

I am also naturally controlling, and I find myself being controlling with women. I don’t particularly like it, and independent, self-sufficient women help balance that attribute.
 
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Don't you get some credit for having moved?
No credit cause I'm still here (can't move because of custody)... At least no one expects too much from me!!! The bar is set exceptionally low! Ha ha ha ha ha
 
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