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Actually, don't read Men are From Mars Women are from Venus. Instead, I recommend you read the following books "The Game," "Mystery Method," and if you are in your early to mid-twenties "Rules of the Game." The author of the first and third book was a journalist who set out to solve the question: how do you pick up women if you are not your typical alpha male. The Game narrates his story from being a loser to to being able to get any woman he ever wanted. The Mystery Method is written by his teacher in the book a guy called "Mystery" It will take you step by step into the courting process. Some names to look up Neil Strauss, David Deangelo, Mystery, Ross Jeffries. All these guys are dedicated to teaching men how to successfully approach women and get them interested. I can go on about this subject but if you have any questions just post it here.
- November 3rd, 2009, 03:17 pm
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Actually, don't read Men are From Mars Women are from Venus. Instead, I recommend you read the following books "The Game," "Mystery Method," and if you are in your early to mid-twenties "Rules of the Game." The author of the first and third book was a journalist who set out to solve the question: how do you pick up women if you are not your typical alpha male. The Game narrates his story from being a loser to to being able to get any woman he ever wanted. The Mystery Method is written by his teacher in the book a guy called "Mystery" It will take you step by step into the courting process. Some names to look up Neil Strauss, David Deangelo, Mystery, Ross Jeffries. All these guys are dedicated to teaching men how to successfully approach women and get them interested. I can go on about this subject but if you have any questions just post it here.
Before any woman jumps in and say how degrading these schools of thought are, these books aren't necessarily about trying to sleep with as many women as possible. A lot of guys suffer from severe anxiety when it comes to dealing with women. Rejection is hard to take for some people.

These books just merely teach you the tools necessary to be able to not only talk to women, but also tell you how to build attraction in the same process. It's a tool. And like any tool, it's all how you use it.
- November 3rd, 2009, 03:43 pm
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Before any woman jumps in and say how degrading these schools of thought are, these books aren't necessarily about trying to sleep with as many women as possible. A lot of guys suffer from severe anxiety when it comes to dealing with women. Rejection is hard to take for some people.

These books just merely teach you the tools necessary to be able to not only talk to women, but also tell you how to build attraction in the same process. It's a tool. And like any tool, it's all how you use it.
Oh that's a good point neo. For anyone not familiar with these books, they are all positive and in favor of women. In our day and age a guy needs more than just status or prestige to attract a mate. The reality is that most women have in their own careers have all the status and prestige they need thanks to the feminist movement. So instead of looking to be housewives, most women are looking to be partners with their mate. These books and gurus teach men how to dress, how to be interesting, and how to appropriately court a woman in this day and age. There is actually a Dr. Phil clip on youtube where Dr. Phil discusses this topic. When the women who were approached by the men at the bar or club were asked after how they felt about their experience talking with the guys learning the tools, all of them had favorable responses. Finally, in the end Dr. Phil asks the girls do you recommend all guys take these classes and the answer was overwhelmingly yes.
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Actually, don't read Men are From Mars Women are from Venus. Instead, I recommend you read the following books "The Game," "Mystery Method," and if you are in your early to mid-twenties "Rules of the Game." The author of the first and third book was a journalist who set out to solve the question: how do you pick up women if you are not your typical alpha male. The Game narrates his story from being a loser to to being able to get any woman he ever wanted. The Mystery Method is written by his teacher in the book a guy called "Mystery" It will take you step by step into the courting process. Some names to look up Neil Strauss, David Deangelo, Mystery, Ross Jeffries. All these guys are dedicated to teaching men how to successfully approach women and get them interested. I can go on about this subject but if you have any questions just post it here.
I'm in my 40s, and have been back in the dating world for just over 3 years. As far as meeting/talking to women, dating, and having girlfriends, I'm far more successful now, than I was in my 20s.

I think the key is to know yourself, and be confident in yourself, and to know what you want, and don't want in the women you meet. A little humor helps, too.

I've been to the sites of the names you mentioned above...not because I need help, because I don't. I'm always curious to learn more about relationship issues, and I wanted to see if I could get any useful information from these "pick up artists".

I think there are some useful pointers, and you should use the things that are being taught as a way to build your confidence, and relax around women, not become a "playa", user of women, or serial dater.

Being funny, aggressive, cocky, (by the way, some women HATE cocky guys), will get you attention, and probably a date or two, but probably nothing long-term. Reason? Once a woman figures out you put on an "act" to get her, she's gone! Relationships started on a lie usually don't work out, regardless of what happens in the movies. And yes, a woman will put on makeup, a pushup bra, and color her hair, all false things to make her more attractive to you, but if you get caught acting like someone you're not, they don't like it! If you do meet "the one", she's going to like the real you, no matter what that is, not some act you learned how to do.

My suggestion is to learn as much about relationships as you can, and don't stop continuing to learn. (And yes, the books listed above, if it interests you). The internet, and forums like this are invaluable tools, and you can find articles all over, about how men and women relate, and every relationship and communication problem under the sun. Whatever path you take, good luck!
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My 2 cents: Be 1000% (yes, I meant a thousand!) honest.

I like direct honest men.

If a man walked up to me and said: Hi my name is ________. I'm really nervous and not good at talking to women but I couldn't let the opportunity of introducing myself to you pass by.

Whether I was attracted to him or not my personal response would be:

I would (a) swoon inside (b) give him verbal props that I thought he did just fine and in fact that it was quite bold and refreshing that he was so open and honest. (c) have a conversation with him where my main objective would be to make him feel good about his taking a risk.
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If she likes you or is interested in getting to know you then she will want to talk to you..even if you accidentally say something stupid. For the most part, as long as you aren't opening with a cheesy line, you should be fine. Any open ended questions which get her to open up and answer with more than a yes or no, is always good. "where are you from", "what did you do this weekend" etc. Also, if you are comfortable talking yourself and are engaging, you will make the woman more comfortable to open up to you. If you are continuing to ask her questions and she is responding with short answers, she might not be interested and it might have nothing to do with your questions.
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