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Plus you will have a fun story about how you met!
- October 26th, 2009, 08:52 am
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There's some hostility in playing people. Putting one over on, getting something for free, manipulating them to give you something they wouldn't otherwise, playing on their loneliness, sexuality, whatever.

No victim, in the sense that obviously they don't have to let themselves get played. Kind of sad though...
- October 26th, 2009, 08:55 am
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i'd flirt with him even if i didn't get a discount, though.

i'm in sales, and customers ask me for discounts all the time. my response is always "what's in it for me?" and if they have a witty or funny answer i'll usually give them a discount.
- October 26th, 2009, 08:56 am
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scarlet13 wrote :
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i'd flirt with him even if i didn't get a discount, though.

i'm in sales, and customers ask me for discounts all the time. my response is always "what's in it for me?" and if they have a witty or funny answer i'll usually give them a discount.
Could be possible that he's not fixing your car completely, That way you have to keep coming back


I'm the same way with my clients too.
- October 26th, 2009, 09:05 am
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CaptCrunch23 wrote :
Could be possible that he's not fixing your car completely, That way you have to keep coming back


I'm the same way with my clients too.
I don't think so. I'm kinda bad with car maintenece, so i only go in when something falls off.

I only see the guy a few times a year, FWIW. i know next to nothing about him other than he's a mechanic, his first name, and he helps me out with discounts and such because he says i'm a friendly person.
- October 26th, 2009, 09:14 am
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
So you started flirting back like a Pavlovian dog? Just kidding it is just funny to me that who is the victim depends on how you look at it.

I am nice to the repair guys because it gets me a lower bill. They lower my bill because my behavior is what they want. Is there really a victim?
Wouldn't the victim be the company like you said?

The victim could also be the repair man,depending on how he gets paid.

Also I disagree with the statement. "It's what they want".. I highly doubt that people that provide repair services go into it with that in their head.

On the other hand offering a discount, Is sometimes just given too make the client feel all warm and fuzzy inside. In sales. It's the trick of the trade!
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
What I find interesting about everyone replies that take a dig at my values is the psychology behind this. Anyone who is cut a deal no matter what the circumstances behind it will take the deal. You are accepting employee theft to your benefit. You don't look the devil in the eye so you think you are okay. I don't mean this directed at you so much as all the oh you bad girl comments. Yours just happened to be the last one.

Funny thing is this is the internet. You don't even know I practice what I preach. I may just be using my psych degree to gain a better understanding of human nature.
There is a difference between being offered a deal and someone (you) seeking to get a deal by using your feminine whiles (flirting) in order to get something for free. This really comes under the heading of gold digging.

Any "deal" I have ever gotten has been one that would be available to anyone. Smiling sweetly, show a bit of cleavage or shaking my booty at the cable guy is not going to work for anyone other that the girl that is going to do that on purpose in the hopes of getting something for free. I stand by my post that it goes to what YOUR values are.
- October 26th, 2009, 09:44 am
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i'd flirt with him even if i didn't get a discount, though.

i'm in sales, and customers ask me for discounts all the time. my response is always "what's in it for me?" and if they have a witty or funny answer i'll usually give them a discount.
Truth be told I would flirt anyway too. I just opened this up to discussion because it is as close to being a female player as I could think of.
- October 26th, 2009, 09:58 am
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Wouldn't the victim be the company like you said?

The victim could also be the repair man,depending on how he gets paid.

Also I disagree with the statement. "It's what they want".. I highly doubt that people that provide repair services go into it with that in their head.

On the other hand offering a discount, Is sometimes just given too make the client feel all warm and fuzzy inside. In sales. It's the trick of the trade!
If I had to pick the victim it would be the customers who don't get a discount. What they do is put the hours billed as external work that is not the customer's responsibility. This drives up the per hour cost of repair work. Kinda a wealth redistribution. Same as the 2% shrinkage we all pay on our groceries because of shoplifters and those people that decide they don't want parishable items and leave them in the beer isle.

So far as behavior wanted if you have ever worked with the public you know there can be some nasty pieces of work. You know the ones that hover over you telling you everything they think you did wrong. Then they call your boss and get their bill for free. Which would you prefer?
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There is a difference between being offered a deal and someone (you) seeking to get a deal by using your feminine whiles (flirting) in order to get something for free. This really comes under the heading of gold digging.

Any "deal" I have ever gotten has been one that would be available to anyone. Smiling sweetly, show a bit of cleavage or shaking my booty at the cable guy is not going to work for anyone other that the girl that is going to do that on purpose in the hopes of getting something for free. I stand by my post that it goes to what YOUR values are.
I actually treat anyone in customer service positions exactly how I would want to be treated, with respect. Yes it gets me good deals with repair people and I am pretty sure no one is spitting in my food. I get these deals because there are so many vile people out that that enjoy putting these people through hell. I am pleasant and nice. I offer them water if they are working outdoors. I offer them coffee if it is freezing. It is called human kindness. Sometimes I do flirt cause I am a flirt but they usually flirted first.
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