Can_I_just_be_Jo is offline Can_I_just_be_Jo Post #11  October 25,2009, 5:38pm

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I have no problem playing the dumb girl..it just seems to come naturally for me. lol!!

If I don't know something, I have no problem asking for help in getting it done. And if that takes smiling to do it, no problem, I would be giving the smile away anyways.

As for write-offs, nah - I never feel comfortable with that and do not accept unless insisted upon. But if you want to help me with that plumbing thingy, I have no problem accepting the help!
Two of my uncles were in construction. Apparently there is something amusing about an 8 yr old girl in pigtails wielding a circular saw. I can build a house from the ground up if I had the time.
 
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CeJay wrote :
Most males when hit on and presented with the illusion of sex will do most anything. I know I've fallen prey to it once or twice... or more
There is no illusion of sex. I just act interested in their work. I make them feel like their job is important. I just feel dirty in the end because I know my motives are a lower bill.
 
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I repair computers for friends and acquaintances, and while there have been plenty of times i didn't bother to charge for the work because it was no big thing and didn't involve replacement parts, i'd have been pretty annoyed if i thought i were being manipulated to give a lower bill for my time and effort. If you treat people like trained monkeys then don't be surprised if you end up with a peanut shoved in your ear sometime.
 
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
There is no illusion of sex. I just act interested in their work. I make them feel like their job is important. I just feel dirty in the end because I know my motives are a lower bill.
Yeah; deliberately manipulating people and preying on their vulnerabilities isn't exactly a way to feel good. Powerful, maybe, but not good...

If you actually are interested in their work and express that, that's one thing. "Acting" like you are in order to get some personal gain is another. Why not just be straightforward and negotiate the price fairly instead of trying to manipulate your way to a lower bill in such a deliberately sleazy way (I'm not saying that "you" are sleazy, but these tactics certainly are)? Just keep the whole process above board?
 
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nightling wrote :
I always think engaging in such tactics says more about the player than the victim.
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I have never met a woman face to face that would make such a comment. I think everyone does it.
You think wrong.
 
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Can't say I've ever done that. I let them do their job in peace as I want the job done well without any interference from me. If I have any questions, I ask them afterwards.
I recently had someone paint my garden fence and gate. He happened to have worked with setting up sound systems and I had a problem with one of my televisions. I told him about it and he offered to have a look at it and fixed it within10 minutes. When I paid him for the paint job I asked him how much on top for having fixed my TV. I would never have expected not to pay for it.
 
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nightling wrote :
I always think engaging in such tactics says more about the player than the victim.
Seems the victim in the OP's examples is the company that the repair / installer works for. And you and I the general public.
 
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
There is no illusion of sex. I just act interested in their work. I make them feel like their job is important. I just feel dirty in the end because I know my motives are a lower bill.
I think that nightling said it all, this really says a lot about YOUR values.
 
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I repair computers for friends and acquaintances, and while there have been plenty of times i didn't bother to charge for the work because it was no big thing and didn't involve replacement parts, i'd have been pretty annoyed if i thought i were being manipulated to give a lower bill for my time and effort. If you treat people like trained monkeys then don't be surprised if you end up with a peanut shoved in your ear sometime.
And you probably couldn't be manipulated. What you fail to realize is these are people who don't either like their jobs or their employer. What they are doing is employee theft, you do realize that? You would be hard pressed to get me to put one over on my employer to empress anyone.
 
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I think that nightling said it all, this really says a lot about YOUR values.
What I find interesting about everyone replies that take a dig at my values is the psychology behind this. Anyone who is cut a deal no matter what the circumstances behind it will take the deal. You are accepting employee theft to your benefit. You don't look the devil in the eye so you think you are okay. I don't mean this directed at you so much as all the oh you bad girl comments. Yours just happened to be the last one.

Funny thing is this is the internet. You don't even know I practice what I preach. I may just be using my psych degree to gain a better understanding of human nature.
 
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