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It is a shame that we have to live our lifes with a dollar figure. Be proud of who you are and not your net worth. Live with in your means, if you can't pay cash for what you want then you don't need it.

I am very proud and happy to say, my wife has not had to work outside the home. This should be a priority for all married men to bring their wives home if they want to be home, especially if there are children. Children should not be raised by babysitters or daycare, but by thier parents.
- October 25th, 2009, 12:24 am
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Is it possible that you are anxious over your low income and somehow thinking that it is effecting your relationship potential when in fact you have no objective proof of that?
Anxiety is an Irrational Fear! Ask yourself if you are being reasonable everytime you feel very nervous and you can generally talk your way out of the fear.

Is your income level bothering you more than anyone else? coz it seems like you dont have a problem in wanting to make more money, and you are just unable to make it due to anxieties, which you can hopefully work over and get over!
- October 25th, 2009, 03:02 am
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After having seen what has happened to a number of coworkers who got divorced, I am really only interested in dating women of a socioeconomic class similar to mine. If she doesn't make as much as I do, then she should be willing to contribute significantly elsewhere (housework, raising children, etc.) I have seen too many guys who work very hard supporting women who don't do anything to contribute to the relationship, have their wives walk away from the marriage with half of everything he has earned without contributing anything themselves.
- October 26th, 2009, 06:00 pm
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PY_2 wrote :
To me personally, I'd rather choose somebody who has lower income, but responsible with money, rather than somebody who makes bank, but end up in the red every month. As a matter of fact, financial responsibility was one of my must haves when I was on EH before.

Lower income: Not a deterrent.
Frugality (but reasonable and can enjoy life a little bit), responsibility and sensibility with money: Thumbs up.
Mounting (shopping) credit card debt, financial irresponsibility, forcing yourself to live beyond your means: Red light.

Same thing as buying a nice house beyond your limit or driving a nice import car, on high monthly payment...(while you can pick a slightly lesser model and save a few grand). I'd rather pick somebody who lives in a less flashy house (or apartment), drive a modest car, but good with handling money.


+2 Excellent post.

Laura, when you say low income, that's a little relative. A low income in Detroit is not going to be the same as a low income in San Diego...What do you consider low ?
- October 26th, 2009, 06:10 pm
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Anything is possible.

My best friend hasn't worked full time for several years due to medical issues and has dated a number of men, including her boyfriend of over two years. She is wonderful, kind and well educated. I don't know what her long-term income potential is, but there certainly are no guarantees that she will earn a lot and it hasn't seemed to hold her back much.

These seem like really confusing times. I read opinions that men are put off by high earning women, but yet most men seem to care a lot about how much a woman makes and what she does. The other wrinkle is that I know many, many couples, even young ones, with children where the wife does not work and has no plan as of yet to return. I don't know if that was planned or contemplated in the early phase of the relationship, but clearly two income couples aren't mandatory.
- November 2nd, 2009, 03:17 am
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...These seem like really confusing times. I read opinions that men are put off by high earning women, but yet most men seem to care a lot about how much a woman makes and what she does. The other wrinkle is that I know many, many couples, even young ones, with children where the wife does not work and has no plan as of yet to return. I don't know if that was planned or contemplated in the early phase of the relationship, but clearly two income couples aren't mandatory.
I don't care what her income is. I do care that I spend my time and energy with someone who is not focused on trying to take advantage of my income level.
- November 2nd, 2009, 09:30 am
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MarkInAustin wrote :
After having seen what has happened to a number of coworkers who got divorced, I am really only interested in dating women of a socioeconomic class similar to mine. If she doesn't make as much as I do, then she should be willing to contribute significantly elsewhere (housework, raising children, etc.) I have seen too many guys who work very hard supporting women who don't do anything to contribute to the relationship, have their wives walk away from the marriage with half of everything he has earned without contributing anything themselves.
Actually yes, I was going to say, if the woman is from a similar socioeconomic class as mine this is preferable. My brother got himself a poster-girl of a GD....doesn't do a single thing at home (got live-in maid), shops all the time, quit her job because she knew my brother could take care of her and my brother had to support her family, her dad's bills, yelled at MY dad/mom when she and my brother were having problems, etc...my dad even helped with her dad's business (AND her dad ripped my dad off). I never liked that uhmm...woman, since the first time I saw her.

NOT to paint everybody else with the same brush, but in my brother's marriage, the extreme disparity in family income and upbringing, really caused a lot of problems and when their marriage almost become a statistic a couple years ago, it was really messy. She is definitely the case of a strong prenup is absolutely necessary.

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- November 2nd, 2009, 10:34 am
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Mangosteen wrote :
I agree with Flour. Also, your salary will increase with time, but the financial management skills you have are not as easy to learn. Plus, this is one of those situations where I think you can never really win. Some guys are intimated by a salary that is too large (or higher than theirs). So, overall, I would not be concerned about your salary. Some people may judge you positively or negatively, but there isn't a lot you can do about that.
I agree with her, but as a guy. It doesn't matter to me how much they make. But they should at least have there own car and be able to take care of themself. If they make more money than me great! That just means more vacation time for us. But then again thats just me.
- November 2nd, 2009, 11:12 am
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