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D Lion, if a dentist who has "a staff" (this is not someone just out of school) doesn't have the discretionary income for a decent meal I would not date him on the basis of his being incompetent with money.

Perhaps he should have held the mortage down to a managable million so he could eat well. That would be my kind of man.
The more I read your posts, the more it sounds like you're more interested in the materialistic aspects of a relationship, as in what they can buy, what their house is like, and so on, than in the person you would be spending time with. What is more important to you: the man, or the resources he can share with you?
- October 25th, 2009, 07:43 pm
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Last night I paid, because a) I didn't have enough cash to split bill, b) I had enough funds in acc't (not always true) c) it wasn't much of a bill, d) I told date all of the above, discussing where such habbit come from and was it an emotional ploy on guys behalf to create some emotinal obligation. ???

Oh, I have found myself with out any cash so asked date to pay. Never create any bother.

But I was once miffed when having paid a very modest bill for a woman I wasn't inclind to see again, she didn't even say thank you. Clinch for me that I didn't want to see her again.
- October 25th, 2009, 07:45 pm
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You know it could be said that men that won't let you pick up the check are male chauvinists. I mean doesn't it mean that the ickle female can't be an equal cause we can't expect her to pay?
And this explains why eH continues to be in business. We're all looking for something different. Who passes muster with you is probably be a totally different set of guys than do so with me.
- October 25th, 2009, 07:55 pm
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There's always sugardaddy.com too!
- October 25th, 2009, 08:02 pm
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There's always sugardaddy.com too!
My theory on that: If a woman is looking for a sugar daddy or is some kind of a gold digger or cares more about my resources than me, then no matter what my income or net worth is, she wants someone better off than I.
- October 25th, 2009, 08:07 pm
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The more I read your posts, the more it sounds like you're more interested in the materialistic aspects of a relationship, as in what they can buy, what their house is like, and so on, than in the person you would be spending time with. What is more important to you: the man, or the resources he can share with you?

This is unfair.

Most people will not take a dating partner who is going to cause a material adverse change in their economic position, quality of life, or security.

I think she is doing it right, and has a common, well-thought-out attitude.

I would not even contemplate marrying a woman who would jeopardize what I've worked for; a woman has the same right.
- October 25th, 2009, 08:07 pm
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This is unfair.

Most people will not take a dating partner who is going to cause a material adverse change in their economic position, quality of life, or security.

I think she is doing it right, and has a common, well-thought-out attitude.

I would not even contemplate marrying a woman who would jeopardize what I've worked for; a woman has the same right.
In short, I have a LOT to lose. I'm now where I wanted to be 25 years ago and where I've worked to be for over 25 years.

So I've had to learn what I'm sure you, as an accounting major, know: there are ways to protect what one has worked for (such as an irrevocable trust, as ONE example). We can keep someone from screwing up our economic situation with the right paperwork -- if we truly want to be with that person and care about them more than resources and assets.

Her questions and comments and admissions show she's focused more on the "fine life" (just look at her profile, she indicates it there, too).

It's a perfectly valid question when one emphasizes more of a focus on how well off someone is or how they date men in higher income brackets and that these things are a concern.
- October 25th, 2009, 09:34 pm
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This is a good point, but sometimes there is only a VERY fine line between baggage and useful experience.

I'll step out into the fire on this one and let every one jump all over my butt for being an idiot, but I won't say anything here I haven't said elsewhere on this forum.

I had a habit of picking women who expected me to give and give. My last serious relationship went past that and she actually started demanding more and more work from me to fix this and that and would throw tantrums if I couldn't fix it and even said things like, "Why should I thank you? It still doesn't work?"

People don't start out treating you like that on a first date, even if they're sick, they somehow know to hide those things until you're "trapped" in the relationship.

My baggage: I've been seriously and royally used a number of times by women who claim to be generous, but are nothing more than emotional vampires.

My experience: People are often not who they say they are and often have a much more flattering view of themselves than others will.

How does that translate to life: I want to know if I'm going out with a giver or a taker, or someone in between. I want to be sure I'm not setting myself up to be sucked dry again. So I can create a scoring system with a lot of tests, just like when I was a teacher, or when I was a programmer and everything reduced to numbers. If she offers to pay her part on a check, that's a point in her favor. If she doesn't offer, that's a point against. If she offers but I can tell she's testing me, that's two points against.

When I walk her to my car and open the door for her, does she take the effort to reach over and unlock my door or not? If she does, that's a point for, if not it's a point against.

At the end of a date, I can tally up the points and if she scores high enough, I go out again. After two dates, I repeat. Eventually I can have a score that tells me if she's "safe" or not.

Or I can remember that we're both human beings. We both have strengths and weaknesses. Sure, I'll notice if she takes more than gives, after all, I've been burned in that area before, but I won't score her and I won't be in a hurry to write her off in two dates or less.

Setting up tests and rating someone on how they score is baggage. Keeping an awareness of what is going on and using that past experience as balanced guidance to help me see what a woman is like while I'm enjoying my time is using my experience to my benefit.
I'm sorry, but I take issue with the "what I've done for you V what you've done for me" score keeping. I do things for people because I like doing them, period. Been used? Yep. Feel pity for them for having to use someone, move on.



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IMHO/experience, people who are skittish also carry a lot of baggage (from bad experiences).

Women like her are very rare, which is I am really thinking I have a keeper


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I agree again.
That skittish people have baggage or Laura is an incredible find? Crazy thing about it is that no matter how many times I tell her, she seems to have no idea how incredible she is.







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In my experience, almost all women state they want to see me again, but a good portion then simply disappear.
Do the police know about this?


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If I find enough interest to ask a woman on a second date I will pay for it.

I've had some first dates where the woman was interesting but may have been off her game a little. The second date is a good chance to see what the woman is like once she is a little more relaxed.
Although Laura has cooked several times for me, she loves when I cook for her. With exception of dining with my mother at her lodge (which has been in Food and Wine magazine, HGTV's "The Good Life", AK air inflight magazone, blah blah blah), we have yet to go out to a restaurant for dinner.

Incidentally, was unable to read all posts, just returned from taking the girls out to her place, cooked some sausages, fresh rolls, and corn on the BBQ that I recently gave her (OK it is nice but used, given to me by a friend when I mentioned that I was looking for an inexpensive BBQ for her). She asked me where I got it and I told her the truth. Also finished up installing a "new" (gently used) dishwasher for her. I am sooooo cheap.

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D_Lion wrote :
In other words, the message you are sending is that you have decent housing, are the kind of person with a future, and are not up to your neck in debt and bills.

See how easy it is to make whatever assumption you want, when you make assumptions?

What you call cheap I call responsible.

Instead of assumptions, better to get some data to make a real decision.
Yes! Thank you D_Lion!!

What a novel idea. Communicate directly to find out what you want to know.
- October 25th, 2009, 10:21 pm
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I'm sorry, but I take issue with the "what I've done for you V what you've done for me" score keeping. I do things for people because I like doing them, period. Been used? Yep. Feel pity for them for having to use someone, move on. ...
First, I wonder if you read the full post and saw the intent of the point: I said that the score keeping was a Bad Thing (tm). I used that as an example of what does NOT work.

Second, and this is something I learned when working in treatment, moving on means not repeating the same unproductive patterns. Part of not repeating those patterns is an awareness of what they are and what the signs are of those patterns. Been used once? Try to avoid it. Been used twice? Figure out what the common factors are and what you did that's part of it. Been used a repeated number of times? Get counseling, figure out what you're doing, and figure out how to avoid it in the future.

Part of avoiding is keeping an awareness of when the patterns are repeating. How do people use you? Okay, be aware of that and when you see it, decide if it's part of the pattern or something else. It doesn't mean keeping score, but it does mean being aware, in this case, for example, if you're doing everything for her and she does nothing but enjoy it.
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