Whats up with this "meeting at a coffee shop"


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CapnCrunch23 is offline CapnCrunch23 Post #101  October 18,2009, 2:38pm

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MansPOV wrote :
The fallacy here is considering the coffee thing a DATE. It's not. I personally consider it a "meet & greet" if you will. It's what keeps you from going out on endless blind dates.

You've exchanged a bunch of witty emails. You've had hours long phone calls way past your bedtime. You arrange a fantastic evening for Saturday night and spend all week in anticipation. When she shows up, you try real hard not to stare at the hump on her back... or that 40 pounds of spare tire and 3" of missing stature that wasn't in his picture... or whatever it is that keeps the chemistry from being there in person. But you're now stuck on this date knowing full well you have no interest in a second date. Happens all the time!!

Why put yourself through that? To me, if you connect via email and on the phone, the next logical step is to see if you share that connection in person. So have a short, non-committal meeting and see if you ARE interested in making a date. That way your actual DATE isn't a blind date.

I personally won't do it any other way. I won't call it a date. And I have yet to have ANYONE say no thanks to a simple coffee "meeting" as a first get together... even if we drink iced tea!
This is a great way to look at it!
 
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TiffanyDiamond is offline TiffanyDiamond Post #102  October 18,2009, 4:37pm
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Ah, yes, you are definitely new if you don't understand the coffee date. In my experience (and many other people's as well), a date will not always live up to your expectations in person. They may look completely different from their profile, not be a fraction as witty as in email, seem kind of creepy, bore you to death, etc. Would you really want to commit to a full evening date with someone you've never really met???

The beauty of the coffee date is that it can be short and is very low investment. Think of it more as a pre-date. You show up to size eachother up and decide if one another is worth a real date. I wouldn't fault a guy for going this 'cheap' route for the first meeting. Now if you hit it off on your first meeting and he only suggests an upgrade to fast food next time?...then you may need to think twice! lol.[/quote]

I agree. As a woman I definitely prefer the short coffee date. I don't care that it's a cheap date.

I don't care how much time you spend talking and e-mailing before you meet - things can definintely take a bad turn when you meet in person. I met this guy once from a dating service and while we were spending time talking and getting to know each other he seemed fine. He was very intelligent, was in a great profession, everything that I thought would make us click. When we met for coffee he showed up wearing dirty clothes and it looked like he hadn't been to a dentist in quite a long time. I don't mean just bad teeth - I know that some people are just afraid of the dentist. I mean his teeth were yellow and dirty. I'm thinking he must have cleaned himself up somewhat when he went to the dating service (I hope he did anyway). But when we met it was horrible. I wasn't rude or anything but I did end the date after a short time as planned. He was a nice guy but did not practice good hygiene. Really bad. Who wants to get stuck on a long date with someone like that???
 
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There is NOTHING wrong with the coffee date. It is no different from meeting for drinks...

And I have had many coffee dates that lets well into the evening.

There is something casual and cozy and comfortable. Like sitting in someone's living room without having to give a stranger your address....
Agreed as well.
Coffee date to me is the ideal first meeting.

To the OP, no, not a Dunkin Dounuts or something cheezy like that, but a real coffee joint, Caribou, Starbucks, etc.

I don't even drink coffee, (but I LOVE the smell!!!), but its the slow pace "ambient" type of place, where you aren't rushed in and out, plus, its a very low key and SAFE place to meet.

The last thing I want to do, is set up a first meeting where my date
might be scared in any way to meet up.

BTW, another person here, (cp30) has mentioned she likes to at the very least meet up for drinks if not dinner.

I completely disagree with the meeting for drinks idea.

Yes, alcohol will make it easier to talk with the person (Liquid Courage!!!), but you simply don't know the person well enough yet.

Perhaps they are a recovering alcoholic, or maybe they have a family member who is one.
Do you really want to make such a bad blunder that early into meeting the person?

Meeting for dinner isn't a horrible idea, but it does surprise me that a veteran online dater like cp30 would prefer it.

A veteran online dater has been burned at least once in the past by meeting with someone who simply is "not right" for whatever reason, and you pretty much know within a few minutes there is no way its going to work.

Its those meetings that make dinner troubling. You need to stick it out through dinner, which is VERY uncomfortable.
With a coffee meeting, both sides can "Pull the plug" early if the other person isn't right, or is just plain creepy.
Yet the same coffee meeting can last hours and hours, if both sides hit it off, and you don't feel any rush of "finishing up and getting out", like you might at a restaurant.

I am just plain convinced that a coffee meeting is ideal for the first meeting.
 
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BTW, another person here, (cp30) has mentioned she likes to at the very least meet up for drinks if not dinner.

I completely disagree with the meeting for drinks idea.

Yes, alcohol will make it easier to talk with the person (Liquid Courage!!!), but you simply don't know the person well enough yet.

Perhaps they are a recovering alcoholic, or maybe they have a family member who is one.
Do you really want to make such a bad blunder that early into meeting the person?
I would tend to think if that was a issue, They would suggest another place or decline. I highy doubt someone would accept an invitation to a place that they are not comfortable with.
 
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I've never in my 'career' met up with someone too weird, creepy or disgusting to have dinner with.

I prefer drinks over a meal. But I usually agree to a meal if it is suggested.

And one or two drinks doesn't impair my judgement or really do anything....it winds me down a little...wheras coffee has the opposite effect.

I was talking about this today with a guy, and he has had experiences too....where the woman seemed 'low investment'

she picked a neighborhood bar where she knew people...she brought her dog, and had friends nearby.

Maybe this is the same type of 'feeling' I get about the coffee date. It's a pre-screen, and I think bfc is the only one here who has summed up how I feel about it the best....it's hard to explain but if you enter in with such feelings you are much less likely to have a positive experience.

Think about how you feel if a woman brings a friend along...

I think it feels probably similiar to how I feel about the speedy low investment coffee date.... I kinda want to say, why don't you just bring a measuring tape. Let's just meet in the parking lot and I'll spin around so you can see me from all angles, and then you can measure my waist to hip ratio.

Then we can just schedule a future date there in the parking lot if it all checks out.

Yes, I am making light here. But I'm just trying to explain how it can come across and my aversion to the trend and commonality of the 'coffee date' as the expected and accepted new way to meet, as if it is beyond reproach.

I don't like it myself. I wouldn't suggest it. I'd probably agree to it.....as long as it's not 20 miles from my house or something ridiculous. It's still an effort for me as I'm still going to obsess over what to wear and my hair and etc. No matter how 'low investment' it might seem to the guy.
 
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melman wrote :
How does making the situation more formal and more expensive reduce anxiety or make it more advantageous to you?

A bad meeting (or even just a "no chemistry") puts you in a very social mood?

Sorry, but I continue to be unconvinced by your reasoning. I respect your preference, but your defense of it is weak.
...Picturing myself lookin good, feeling good having just eaten very well, downtown where there is a lot going on with many, many other women that I am sure to be attracted to all around. OH NO!! NOT THAT!! Still waiting to see the downside.

Don't you think that is an ideal time to be out? Are you not going to see anyone that might be of interest? The whole evening would be an opportunity to meet someone outstanding.

Yes... I will have a reasonable time with ANYONE. Under what circumstance could I not be entertained? I can't think of any. Any money spent is spent on me really.

I would consider it a night out on the town. It can easily run $60 if I meet friends for drinks or even go out alone. The cost is about the same.

Shy? Not a problem. Religious fanatic? Not a problem. Bad dresser? Not a problem. Not attractive to me? Well so what. I can still have fun with the woman. Could a woman ever put me in a bad mood?? I can't see how I would come out of dinner in a bad mood. Did she hurt my feelings?

I just cannot think of anyone that would not be worth my time. I am not finding these intolerable people. Even the examples that have been given would not make me feel as if I wasted money or time.

I have a hard time understanding why many of us... that spend some evenings on the boards would care if they went out for a while on any one of their less busy evenings.
 
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bigfincat wrote :
I don't read any harshness on this thread.

The OP just prefers to have more effort & excitement.

I think that most people commenting would attempt to compromise with a match rather easily.

I would definitely do Starbucks at night if it works out that way. There are probably less people there after dark so some privacy would be more likely.

I would go to that establishment simply because it is the best coffee that I have ever tasted...especially Komodo Dragon or Sumatra. Mmmm. delicious.
*agrees on the Sumatra*

I have never tried the Komodo. Just bought a bag of Verona to try.
 
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bigfincat wrote :
... downtown where there is a lot going on with many, many other women that I am sure to be attracted to all
and downtown there is a lot of bridges made of stone...
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I agree with CP30 and BFC. I'd rather meet for drinks and/or dinner. I've never had a horrible experience, maybe I've just been lucky so far.

I don't drink coffee, nor do I find coffeehouses conducive to talking to a stranger ... too many people around listening in on our conversation!
 
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chestnutlass wrote :
There is NOTHING wrong with the coffee date. It is no different from meeting for drinks...

And I have had many coffee dates that lets well into the evening.

There is something casual and cozy and comfortable. Like sitting in someone's living room without having to give a stranger your address....
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