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funnyengineergal wrote :
To add insult to injury, I shall even respond to that!
What injury did I insult?

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No, I do not dance tango, but I will want to learn with a partner someday and dance it at my wedding.
Yeah, me, too. Heck, I'd be happy just to date a dancer. The last women I went out with, now a friend, met me in Colonial Williamsburg and while we were on a covered walkway there, she asked me to teach her to dance. Well, if you know me, there's no need to guess what dance I showed her.

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It's a dance that is impossible to learn by oneself.
Any ballroom dance is almost impossible to learn by one's self.

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And the girl's job is to basically follow the guy's lead. Chauvinistic? Nah!!

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What I find interesting is that women, when they start, say, "I just can't let go and let someone lead, I can't see myself doing that," and after they dance a bit, EVERY woman I've talked to says, "I'm SO glad I don't have to lead!"

But seriously, it varies. In American tango, yes you follow the lead, but a good dancer adds a LOT of style to it, but she also had to know a lot on her own if she wants to look good. (If you're at a beginning level, that's not a big deal.) In Argentine tango, a woman can just follow a man's lead, but that's kind of like just letting him buy you flowers, take you places, and letting him put all the work into the relationship while just saying, "Thank you." If a woman did nothing more than follow my lead, I wouldn't dance with her again. It's a partnership and a good tango dancer will be able to embellish and add a lot to what he does.

It's true, in both Argentine and American, I can take a woman through a lot of moves she doesn't know and I have danced with women that didn't know either and at the end they were amazed at some of the moves they did that they didn't know, but that gets old quickly if she doesn't take the time to learn her part.

I went on with this because as I was thinking about it, I was thinking about how much it relates to baggage: Some of us expect others to help us (like "I want to find my one true love who will make me a whole person"), some put in minimal effort into improving themselves, and others go the extra mile -- and those women and men never have trouble finding a partner at a milonga!
- October 10th, 2009, 05:58 pm
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When you are older and dating you will have some. Those of us who are divorced have all been through some sort of emotional turmoil. How much do you put up with in a dating partner? Do you feel they must have it all together or are you willing to work with them on issues?

If she is a feminist, I'll leave her for the parasites. If she is plastic, materialistic, fake or a female player (professional dater) then adios amiga.

If she is a good person, humble and down to Earth
then I'm willing to have as much patience as it takes. I'm not perfect so why should she be?

The real idiots are those who believe divorced fathers have "baggage" while assuming divorced mothers have none. Are there any intelligent, honest women out there?

I think I give up on dating for now. Women are too much trouble. Maybe in the future; I'll work on me for now.
- October 11th, 2009, 02:37 am
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Oh cool!! Wadda ya think? Do South American women carry more or less baggage than American women? Let's generalize!!

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South American women are HOT!!!!!
- October 11th, 2009, 02:39 am
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roguewolf1 wrote :
South American women are HOT!!!!!
...and all this time I thought it was Cuban women that "wowed" you!!!!....
- October 11th, 2009, 04:52 am
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I concur. Dating is different. The last guy I more seriously dated was from Chile and we had this problem....I'm seeing it now more as a cultural thing.

Not only am I am American I'm midwestern....more reserved and slower to trust people, but once I do I'm loyal and likely a friend for life.

He of course thought I had issues with trust and allowing myself to just fall into love and live in the moment...

I see this more as a cultural thing now. To me it's a bit off the wall to just fall madly in love with no caution to the wind in a matter of weeks or dates. To me trust is earned and not freely given. To him trust is given until proven untrustworthy.
Yes...some latin men tend to date differently. They know within the first few weeks (or sooner) if they feel the "swoon".

My half-Cuban father said he knew when my mom passed him on the street while she was visiting family in Buffalo that he was going to marry her. He told her on the first date that she would be his wife someday (nowadays talk like that will get a man a swift kick in the shin and never see that woman again!..lol)

Of course my mom being the suspicious westerner that she was made him wait almost nine months before she accepted (she said she thought he was 'too much' in his declaration of love for her which made her feel "weird", like he had to be joking to have fallen so head over heels so quickly)... but that is what some women love about Latin men...they can be very expressive.

If they like you they like you a lot...if they don't they will leave you alone. Very simple to understand.

I prefer a more westerner approach to dating and relationships...because I tend to take my time and don't like to feel rushed into a relationship, and I am not as expressive as I'd like to be. But two of my sisters have stayed true to their latin roots and married adoring, loving, latin men (one of my sisters married her husband in the Dominican Republic...the wedding was beautiful!).

Both couples seem happy, but it is all too stifling for my taste...all that sweeping-me-off-my-feet and adoration creeps me out!.

Adios Mio!
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He told her on the first date that she would be his wife someday
Of course...that only means something if he wasn't telling that to every first date.
- October 11th, 2009, 08:00 am
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If she is a feminist, I'll leave her for the parasites. If she is plastic, materialistic, fake or a female player (professional dater) then adios amiga.

If she is a good person, humble and down to Earth
then I'm willing to have as much patience as it takes. I'm not perfect so why should she be?

The real idiots are those who believe divorced fathers have "baggage" while assuming divorced mothers have none. Are there any intelligent, honest women out there?

I think I give up on dating for now. Women are too much trouble. Maybe in the future; I'll work on me for now.
So I see you don't have any bitterness or baggage, do you? Your post (first I've seen by you since I got back) certainly makes you seem very humble and down to Earth.
- October 11th, 2009, 08:22 am
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If she is a feminist, I'll leave her for the parasites. If she is plastic, materialistic, fake or a female player (professional dater) then adios amiga.

If she is a good person, humble and down to Earth
then I'm willing to have as much patience as it takes. I'm not perfect so why should she be?

The real idiots are those who believe divorced fathers have "baggage" while assuming divorced mothers have none. Are there any intelligent, honest women out there?

I think I give up on dating for now. Women are too much trouble. Maybe in the future; I'll work on me for now.
An intelligent woman should know the true, dictionary definition of a feminist. And if this intelligent woman is also honest, she will probably admit she will not accept that women should be granted fewer rights than men.

Finally, an intelligent feminist may actually be the one who leaves you for the parasites by taking over your job if she is more qualified for it, assuming, of course, that she even wants your job.
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When you're in your late 40s, as I am, everyone has emotional baggage. But there's practical baggage also. I won't consider dating anyone who has children still living at home. That's just too much unneeded drama for me.
- October 11th, 2009, 09:31 am
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An intelligent woman should know the true, dictionary definition of a feminist. And if this intelligent woman is also honest, she will probably admit she will not accept that women should be granted fewer rights than men.

Finally, an intelligent feminist may actually be the one who leaves you for the parasites by taking over your job if she is more qualified for it, assuming, of course, that she even wants your job.
Wow. You have ovaries.
- October 11th, 2009, 10:11 am
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