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Yeah, my experience with younger faculty (my advisor is one such example) is that they're working like crazy all the time....and even after they get tenure many faculty are so used to pouring so much time and energy into their work that they continue doing so even after getting tenure (not all faculty, and not to quite the extent that the younger ones do, but it's still noticeable).

Quality of life concerns related to how much of my life I wanted to devote to my career were a big factor for me in deciding to switch out of doing a Ph.D and aim for a lower stress/lower prestige career path.
- September 29th, 2009, 02:36 pm
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Yeah, my experience with younger faculty (my advisor is one such example) is that they're working like crazy all the time....and even after they get tenure many faculty are so used to pouring so much time and energy into their work that they continue doing so even after getting tenure (not all faculty, and not to quite the extent that the younger ones do, but it's still noticeable).
At that point they're so used to doing it....and they're also shooting for promotion to Full Professor, as well as just wanting to be at the top of their field.
- September 29th, 2009, 02:39 pm
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Yeah....and the 'other' partner also has to be willing to make the sacrifices necessary for the 'career' partner to pursue their work.
That's a given.

Academics certainly work hard, I just never felt the financial reward was truly there. They get paid well but in other fields, law/medicine/accounting the financial rewards are much greater for equal levels of work.

I guess I never really felt the passion for my field of reaserch to make that sacrifice. I would also guess that passion contributes to the difficulties faced in building long-term relationships.
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That's a given.

Academics certainly work hard, I just never felt the financial reward was truly there. They get paid well but in other fields, law/medicine/accounting the financial rewards are much greater for equal levels of work.

I guess I never really felt the passion for my field of reaserch to make that sacrifice. I would also guess that passion contributes to the difficulties faced in building long-term relationships.
That's right....the money in academia is ok....but you certainly don't go into it for that reason. There are other fields you can make a lot more in if that's your goal. For myself, I really like my field, enjoying doing a certain amount of research, and have fun with the kids when I teach...so I simply opt for a less intensive research university. I'll even be able to do pretty well financially between working for part of the summer and am looking to make some real estate investments. It's looking like a pretty good life to me right now.
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Interesting....timely topic....

I've gotten to know a few professors, have a master's myself that was pretty intensive with some serious research (I think I treated it more like a PhD, just cause that's how I am, and why I fear the PhD... I have a problem with scope, and I procrastinate too).

My last boyfriend was a young professor at an, I guess you would say research intensive university, and he himself was an ivy league graduate.

And we lived about 45 minutes to an hour apart in different cities.

He, however, manages his time very well and is rather focused. I'm not. I do well in a more structured enviornment (which I have) where I can clock out at night. A nice 40 hours a week. Maybe more if I'm travelling. I don't really have anything to procrastinate about anymore so I have time for a relationship, and I've given up moving from state to state lol...so I'm good.

Anyway. He, however seems to do really well at carving out the time he needs for that and for other things. Very good with that and it was never an issue. I was pretty impressed with that because he really did have a lot on his plate and a lot was expected of him.

I do think it affected 'how' we broke up, but didn't have anything to do with the why. It was the end of the semester and I do think it might have been an overload for him.

Actually I found him so interesting and easy to talk to. I tend to do well with this personality type...I don't need a lot of time with someone... I just need to know they are comitted and that the time is quality. Also, he would be fine with me doing my thing and him doing his thing but still hanging out together. I don't see a problem with that.

Actually, the biggest problem was the....extra cirriculars that academia tends to tolerate if not encourage....i.e. pot smoking.

Anyway, that is water under the bridge at this point and not really the question. Though, in my experience it's been the worst part about dating an academic! lol....everything else fit me pretty well. Personally I need to be with someone that is curious about the world...very intelligent, and a little deeper than your average pick-up truck photo posting duck hunting guy.

And from his perspective...just to throw another one out there. He was also very attracted to strong and intelligent women. I could never see him with someone he didn't respect or connect with intellectually. Of course not just like him, but enough to keep him interested.

And, I'll be seeing him next week. For the first time in a few months...

As for careers that I tend to shy away from.....wall street types. Those are the type of men I am wary of. In my experience...they are smart....but definitley all about the money....and we are fundamentally different.

Typically, I am drawn to very intelligent and ambitious men in general. Not money though. Though it sometimes happens to be a side effect. I'm repelled by men who are in things just for money.

I'm meeting a nice enviornmental lawyer this week too, who has done some really cool things for preservation around here....and some other men who are not professors, but just as busy it seems. Doesn't really bother me. It's the level of comittment I'm interested in.

I've been alone so long, being alone doesn't bother me. I'm actually more afraid of someone who would demand all of my time.
- September 29th, 2009, 04:39 pm
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I'm a university professor and am curious as to what the experiences of other academics have been with online dating.

I tried online dating a few years ago and often found it awkward either being matched up with students or accidentally contacting them. The most embarrassing situation occurred when a student I contacted approached me at the end of the semester expecting to date, after I made it clear my contacting her was a mistake. I never date students, so this was a non-starter.

The other issue that comes up is that women sometimes express being intimidated communicating with professors, so I tend to stick with dating a limited pool of professors and physicians.

What's your experience? Is it different for men as opposed for women? Do share.
as for dating students he was trying to avoid that too.

He wrote in his profile that he was interested in women outside of the univesity enviornment ....students and coworkers included.

I think you can do something like that and send the message across well.

It will also reassure women that you are not the type that would want to cheat with the steady stream of new young students!
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Interesting....timely topic....

I've gotten to know a few professors, have a master's myself that was pretty intensive with some serious research (I think I treated it more like a PhD, just cause that's how I am, and why I fear the PhD... I have a problem with scope, and I procrastinate too).

My last boyfriend was a young professor at an, I guess you would say research intensive university, and he himself was an ivy league graduate.

And we lived about 45 minutes to an hour apart in different cities.

He, however, manages his time very well and is rather focused. I'm not. I do well in a more structured enviornment (which I have) where I can clock out at night. A nice 40 hours a week. Maybe more if I'm travelling. I don't really have anything to procrastinate about anymore so I have time for a relationship, and I've given up moving from state to state lol...so I'm good.

Anyway. He, however seems to do really well at carving out the time he needs for that and for other things. Very good with that and it was never an issue. I was pretty impressed with that because he really did have a lot on his plate and a lot was expected of him.

I do think it affected 'how' we broke up, but didn't have anything to do with the why. It was the end of the semester and I do think it might have been an overload for him.

Actually I found him so interesting and easy to talk to. I tend to do well with this personality type...I don't need a lot of time with someone... I just need to know they are comitted and that the time is quality. Also, he would be fine with me doing my thing and him doing his thing but still hanging out together. I don't see a problem with that.

Actually, the biggest problem was the....extra cirriculars that academia tends to tolerate if not encourage....i.e. pot smoking.

Anyway, that is water under the bridge at this point and not really the question. Though, in my experience it's been the worst part about dating an academic! lol....everything else fit me pretty well. Personally I need to be with someone that is curious about the world...very intelligent, and a little deeper than your average pick-up truck photo posting duck hunting guy.

And from his perspective...just to throw another one out there. He was also very attracted to strong and intelligent women. I could never see him with someone he didn't respect or connect with intellectually. Of course not just like him, but enough to keep him interested.

And, I'll be seeing him next week. For the first time in a few months...

As for careers that I tend to shy away from.....wall street types. Those are the type of men I am wary of. In my experience...they are smart....but definitley all about the money....and we are fundamentally different.

Typically, I am drawn to very intelligent and ambitious men in general. Not money though. Though it sometimes happens to be a side effect. I'm repelled by men who are in things just for money.

I'm meeting a nice enviornmental lawyer this week too, who has done some really cool things for preservation around here....and some other men who are not professors, but just as busy it seems. Doesn't really bother me. It's the level of comittment I'm interested in.

I've been alone so long, being alone doesn't bother me. I'm actually more afraid of someone who would demand all of my time.
Well said, cp30. Along with other facets, a healthy curiosity and strong intellect are key components in who I date.

So you say you're single?
- September 29th, 2009, 04:50 pm
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why...yes...yes I am

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He, however, manages his time very well and is rather focused. I'm not. I do well in a more structured enviornment (which I have) where I can clock out at night. A nice 40 hours a week. Maybe more if I'm travelling. I don't really have anything to procrastinate about anymore so I have time for a relationship, and I've given up moving from state to state lol...so I'm good.

Anyway. He, however seems to do really well at carving out the time he needs for that and for other things. Very good with that and it was never an issue. I was pretty impressed with that because he really did have a lot on his plate and a lot was expected of him.

Typically, I am drawn to very intelligent and ambitious men in general. Not money though. Though it sometimes happens to be a side effect. I'm repelled by men who are in things just for money.

I've been alone so long, being alone doesn't bother me. I'm actually more afraid of someone who would demand all of my time.
The prof I dated didn't manage her time very well unfortunately. She was very confusing about it as she would complain about not having enough time then call me and talk for an hour or more on nights when we weren't together.

I'm attracted to very intelligent and ambitious women, but haven't had the chance to meet that many.

I was matched with her two days after finishing my designation - i.e. just as I had an extra 10 - 20 hours a week free because I wasn't studying. It was pretty intense in August but we didn't see each other as much as she got busy and then she dumped me b/c, in part, she wasn't missing me enough.

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Actually, the biggest problem was the....extra cirriculars that academia tends to tolerate if not encourage....i.e. pot smoking.
Maybe that helped him carve out that personal time from a busy schedule.
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