1ST DATE A CHARM..SECOND WAY TOO INTENSE!


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rRACINGRANDY is offline rRACINGRANDY Post #1  September 29,2009, 3:21am
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I am one of "those" types that seems to date really well. I view the dating process as a fun, exciting experience that gives me an opportunity to learn more about someone else and to gain knowledge about myself and what I am looking for in a partner. So to me, the first date or set of first dates has not been a problem.

My issues and dissappointments occur after the first set of dates when the woman starts probing more deeper into my past and the mechanics behind my divorce and failed marriage. But rather than discuss this and allow the discussion to ruin the night out, I have chosen to reframe from talking about it all together per say. I simply say that I have a loving relationship with my children, I have a wonderful career and I am involved in personal fitness which is important to me.

This past weekend I had a first date with a women I met from E-Harmony. The date last 5 hours, we didn't eat much and the diliogue was really fun. Two nights later, we met again. Only this time, she started probing and asking some very deep topics. Mostly about what I am looking for in a partner and what I am trying to avoid.

Simply put...I was abused emotionally and physically during my marriage so the first sign of control or verbal critisism...it sets off warning bells. After we finished dinner, we said "goodbye" but there was a sense of uneasiness. Not like the first date.

Sure enough, last night when we talked on the phone, she brought up the fact that she is a strong women, speaks her mind and that I might feel intimidated because of my past.

I think at this point, the line has now been crossed where even if I explain to her that it is not the case at all, we cannot go back. I mean, if it's this intense after only the second date, then I can't imagine what it's going to be like after a few more dates.

I don't understand this at all. I mean, the first few dates are suppose to be fun and you slowly glide into learning more about your partner. Spend a day together. See how you interact with eachother. Do a few fun activities.

This isn't the first time this has happened to me. The first set of dates go great. Had two relationships last more than a year from this site.

It's just frustrating that once I reveal my past, the insecurities begin. Which is why I chose to try to avoid discussing my past until there is really a true potential.
 
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Gr8Guyn2008 is offline Gr8Guyn2008 Post #2  September 29,2009, 7:49am
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I am not sure what answer you are after.

Your past is going to come up and I can well understand why your matches may want to ask the tough questions early on and not waste their time "having fun" for weeks or months only to find that there is a deal breaker lurking just benenath the surface.
 
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Sounds like these women are sabotaging their relationships, by making sure you know how bad they are, before you get too attached, and before they get too attached.

Sounds like their insecurity, not yours.


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rRACINGRANDY wrote :
I am one of "those" types that seems to date really well. I view the dating process as a fun, exciting experience that gives me an opportunity to learn more about someone else and to gain knowledge about myself and what I am looking for in a partner. So to me, the first date or set of first dates has not been a problem.

My issues and dissappointments occur after the first set of dates when the woman starts probing more deeper into my past and the mechanics behind my divorce and failed marriage. But rather than discuss this and allow the discussion to ruin the night out, I have chosen to reframe from talking about it all together per say. I simply say that I have a loving relationship with my children, I have a wonderful career and I am involved in personal fitness which is important to me.

This past weekend I had a first date with a women I met from E-Harmony. The date last 5 hours, we didn't eat much and the diliogue was really fun. Two nights later, we met again. Only this time, she started probing and asking some very deep topics. Mostly about what I am looking for in a partner and what I am trying to avoid.

Simply put...I was abused emotionally and physically during my marriage so the first sign of control or verbal critisism...it sets off warning bells. After we finished dinner, we said "goodbye" but there was a sense of uneasiness. Not like the first date.

Sure enough, last night when we talked on the phone, she brought up the fact that she is a strong women, speaks her mind and that I might feel intimidated because of my past.

I think at this point, the line has now been crossed where even if I explain to her that it is not the case at all, we cannot go back. I mean, if it's this intense after only the second date, then I can't imagine what it's going to be like after a few more dates.

I don't understand this at all. I mean, the first few dates are suppose to be fun and you slowly glide into learning more about your partner. Spend a day together. See how you interact with eachother. Do a few fun activities.

This isn't the first time this has happened to me. The first set of dates go great. Had two relationships last more than a year from this site.

It's just frustrating that once I reveal my past, the insecurities begin. Which is why I chose to try to avoid discussing my past until there is really a true potential.
I have issues with dating going too quick too fast. I had a few EH dates where I felt I was being interviewed for the wife position (first or second date). I understand wanting to know about past relationships etc but to me I need to know if I even like you and like being with you before I decide to share all this stuff.

Have you gone to therapy to discuss your past relationship? It sounds like you have some issues to resolve and maybe you are picking the same sorts of women as your ex.
 
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Lots of times I have had first dates that seem like job interviews.
I think there are two kinds of daters, everything upfront and the easy going types. The upfront ones don't want to waste any time on someone who will be obviously disqualified, chemistry or not. The easy going types don't want to reveal this stuff until there is enough chemistry to warrant it.
I think both are fine, but it is difficult when these two types try to date each other. I wonder if eH has a way to predict this date behavior. It seems like it should be part of compatibilty.
And the post that said maybe you were picking women similar to your ex may have a point.
 
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Comedian wrote :
Lots of times I have had first dates that seem like job interviews.
I think there are two kinds of daters, everything upfront and the easy going types. The upfront ones don't want to waste any time on someone who will be obviously disqualified, chemistry or not. The easy going types don't want to reveal this stuff until there is enough chemistry to warrant it.
The job interview first dates are painful.

But it's tougher to build the long-term relationship with the easy going types in my experience.
 
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Comedian wrote :
Lots of times I have had first dates that seem like job interviews.
I think there are two kinds of daters, everything upfront and the easy going types. The upfront ones don't want to waste any time on someone who will be obviously disqualified, chemistry or not. The easy going types don't want to reveal this stuff until there is enough chemistry to warrant it.
I think both are fine, but it is difficult when these two types try to date each other. I wonder if eH has a way to predict this date behavior. It seems like it should be part of compatibilty.
And the post that said maybe you were picking women similar to your ex may have a point.
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I agree totally with Comedian. Just the way you described her behavior made me shudder. If you're a bit laid back and like to take things as they come, you have every right to feel confident in being yourself. It's uncomfortable then, to be confronted by a woman who aggressively wants everything to be examined and planned out. And it seems that she made you doubt yourself just a bit. Not a good match of personalities.
 
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rRACINGRANDY wrote :
Simply put...I was abused emotionally and physically during my marriage so the first sign of control or verbal critisism...it sets off warning bells. After we finished dinner, we said "goodbye" but there was a sense of uneasiness. Not like the first date.
you know, you probably need to re-set your warning bells. your system is probably hyper-vigilant. this would be a neuro-physical re-set, btw. this is not an intellectual thing. a therapist could help, but not any therapist. i'd suggest a cognitive behavioural therapist.
 
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From a female POV, I could see why a woman would ask these questions. I would. However, it's the response that is given that determines how it goes.

If you simply blow off the question, she may think you're blowing off her or attempting to hide something. However, you can provide her with a very tactful, generic answer that is direct and to the point. Something like, "I would prefer not to talk about my divorce and focus on this relationship at hand," or "I don't discuss my ex o dates," or "When we get to know each other better, we can discuss it then." I don't know if that's what you did or not. If you didn't, you might want to try. It does help to establish boundaries.
 
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