Can you forgive cheating early in a relationship


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jazz_lover is offline jazz_lover Post #1  September 22,2009, 6:21am
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I was dating this girl for two months. She seemed really into me and we have had sex several times and she was always hugging and kissing me and giving me those lovestruck eyes. She texted me all the time and if I went more than a day without replying she'd send another couple of texts. So I assumed her interest level must be high.

Then she goes on holiday for six weeks to see her family who live overseas. I'm a little uneasy because that is a long break and my initial feeling was we should just break it off and see how we felt about each other when she got back. But she said we can stay in touch and made me promise to be faithful and naturally i asked the same of her.

After a month she goes to a party and afterwards calls me in tears saying she loved me and I must forgive her. I ask what happened and she said her ex was at the party and he wouldn't leave her alone and kissed her and she said stop but he didn't listen and then she gave in and they kissed a bit but she promises she didn't let him have sex with him.

Usually Id figure this girl is either weak or unfaithful and dump her. But as it was so soon into the relationship and she wasn't sure about me and the distance and time apart had clouded everything, Im wondering if i should make an exception and give her another chance.
 
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After a month she goes to a party and afterwards calls me in tears saying she loved me and I must forgive her. I ask what happened and she said her ex was at the party and he wouldn't leave her alone and kissed her and she said stop but he didn't listen and then she gave in and they kissed a bit but she promises she didn't let him have sex with him.

Usually Id figure this girl is either weak or unfaithful and dump her. But as it was so soon into the relationship and she wasn't sure about me and the distance and time apart had clouded everything, Im wondering if i should make an exception and give her another chance.
Nope. If you allow this behavior in the beginnig it sets the precedence that you will forgive her for this type of behavior in the future. If she cannot control her ex or herself . Then she is probably not over him.

Move on...
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calls me in tears saying she loved me and I must forgive her - ugh....no! First of all after two months you hardly know each other so I would not call that love but it does sounds like she is emotionally manipulating you. Effective isn't it? You know her behavior is completely wrong but you are doubting yourself and your values.

Usually Id figure this girl is either weak or unfaithful and dump her - Yes, go with that because that's exactly what this is. The other excuses that will come down the road will be along the lines of "but I was drunk; but I did not have a choice; but insert whatever nonsense you want here".
 
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Naturally, anyone would be hurt by this.
The thing is, she never hid it from you and was open and honest about it.
It sounds a little like she has gotten over him, but he was after a little something to remember her by.
The fact that she never took it further and called you to discuss it says to me that she is into you in some way.
Think about it...she could of just ended it without any explanation.
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a) She didn't "cheat" on you. that implies some act of dishonesty.
b) All she seems to have done is have sex with someone else.
c) It wasn't as if you were married. Correct me if I'm wrong; but at any stage did you explicitly say "I don't want to have sex with you if you might have sex with someone else in the future."
d) Nah. Didn't think so.
e) Seems you want to control someone else. If any dishonesty is going on, it is from you for not saying that was a condition on you being in a sexual relationship with the woman.
d) You're lucky if she wants anything more to do with you.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #6  September 22,2009, 7:21am
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...things seem to have gotten quiet around here.

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I don't care for people who consider themselves to be passive participants in their relationships (or life in general). For example, the implication by this woman that she almost didn't have a personal choice in what happened. It was the ex boyfriend's fault and she was only a passive participant.
 
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howlong is offline howlong Post #7  September 22,2009, 7:26am
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I met this girl in early June. She fell for me hard but I was playing it cool because I do not like to rush into relationships and she was pushing for a commitment. After a month she said she loved me and I wouldn't say it because when I say that word I really have to mean it deeply from my heart. At the start of August she went back to her country for holidays and made me promise to be faithful.

We stayed in touch via instant messenger and the occasional phone call. She was pretty bored and asked me if she could hang out with her ex boyfriends saying they were just friends. I said I didn't really feel it was appropriate and she complained a bit but accepted it.

Then she asks if she can go to a party. I said "Sure". She said "My ex boyfriend is going to be there but don't worry I won't talk to him".

Later that night she tells me that her ex boyfriend forced himself on her and kissed her and groped her. She said she loved me and wanted me to forgive her. I thought it was strange she was asking me to forgive her if she had done nothing wrong and she didn't really have a good answer.

I told her that this long distance thing wasn't working and it is better we broke things off and then had a talk when she got back and see how we felt about each other. She didn't take this well and within a few days she said she had started seeing someone new and was glad we are broken up.

I don't think she is being serious and I'm pretty sure when she is back in London she will start contacting me but im not sure what to do.

She is young and being away from each other for two months so early on in our relationship was bound to cause problems. She also wasn't really sure about me because I was holding back in London. I do not know what happened at the party but perhaps i should have given her the benefit of the doubt.

Any advice?
Some new info but really I think the bolded really shows the maturity of this girl.
 
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This is a difficult call. Even though you both the other to be faithful is that really the same as discussing and agreeing to be in an exclusive committed relationship. A very gray area to me but I tend to say no you have not agreed to an exclusive relationship. In which case there really is no cheating.

Then her going away for 6 weeks after you have only been dating for 2 months. This really is too soon to be going exclusive with a break nearly as long as you had been dating.

I say that you should both have been dating others during the time that you were dating and during the break and then when she returns see where you are and where you both want to go.
 
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Sorry for posting in two threads. I wasn't really sure which section it belonged to as really it falls between dating and relationships. This thread had the most response so ill post on this thread.

Definitely I made a mistake letting her talk me into being exclusive so soon. She kept insisting that casual relationships were not part of her culture (she is Middle Eastern) and was worried the girls in London would try to steal me. Probably I should have just broken it off before she went away and said we'll talk when she gets back and avoided this whole situation.

If anything she was pushing for a commitment and I was dragging my heels. We agreed we would be faithful to each other and then pick things off where we left off when she got back to London.

Definitely it was immature of her rebounding so quickly after we broke up. But lots of girls seem to do that and i doubt it is at all serious. After all she comes back to London in a few days and we have barely been broken up a week.

I agree that she is not long term relationship material. But I was never that crazy about her in London and it is just a case of absence making the heart fonder and scrambling my feelings.

She doesn't have any ex boyfriends in London. So I was wondering if it would be worth pursuing a casual relationship while getting out if I find myself developing serious feelings? Or would this be playing with fire?

I'm quite sure she didn't sleep with the guy because she called at midnight her time and we talked for a few hours, and there is no way in her culture she would be able to sleep with a guy at a party without other people finding out and its a big no-no in her culture.

Basically when we were dating in London all I ever wanted was a casual relationship and was keeping my options open and she knew it. Now she has no leverage and cannot expect me to be faithful because she's shown she is incapable of fidelity.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #10  September 22,2009, 9:13am
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...things seem to have gotten quiet around here.

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jazz_lover wrote :
Definitely I made a mistake letting her talk me into being exclusive so soon. She kept insisting that casual relationships were not part of her culture (she is Middle Eastern) and was worried the girls in London would try to steal me.


I agree that she is not long term relationship material. But I was never that crazy about her in London and it is just a case of absence making the heart fonder and scrambling my feelings.
The first quote of yours above is oftentimes what people actually want.....they want YOU to not see anyone else while THEY can see other people.

If the second quote of yours above is the case then you don't really have any problem here. You'll either stop seeing her if you're only after a long term relationship....or you'll continue seeing her and won't be concerned with being 'exclusive' if that is what you're looking for.
 
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