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nishatika is offline nishatika Post #1  September 17,2009, 6:20pm
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I really think that too many men have read the mars and venus books and take them way too literally! I do not want the constant eye contact so much that it makes me feel uncomfortable, and makes you seem creepy.
Stop the googly eyes! Now I say!

Then, you all seem to be taking way too much an interest in how my day went or what my job is. My job is not that interesting, really, I don;t have much to say about it, and when I am not at work, I do not want to think about work or talk about work!!! And to want to hear every detail of my day, what did I eat, what did I do at work, what did I do after work. If I say I had a routine day then I did, the details are boring, and you actually aren;t interest, you just have read somewhere that you are supposed to act interested.

Women don;'t want that stuff, just be yourselves, make conversation about the news of the day, politics, social issues, your hobbies, general stuff that we both can chime in on, and maybe find some common ground. Talk about vacations you liked, books, movies, tv shows, sports, what you do in your spare time, stories from when you were a kid, what you were like in high school, colllege, a

and when you talk about what you do, just give the in a nut shell version, I don't want the 2 hour in depth version of what you do. When we ask about your day, the same - we are being polite, making small talk, don;t give every detail, just say your day was fine, or went well, that's all! unless something really spectacular and out of the ordinary happened, be it good or bad, then that is worth sharing.

I am done having boring conversations where all we do is talk about our jobs and our day!!!
 
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Most men with any sense at all realize that Mars/Venus book is nothing but a litany of Feminist tripe, the author notwithstanding.
If you meet a man who has swallowed that hogwash you haven't met a man.
 
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nishatika wrote :
I really think that too many men have read the mars and venus books and take them way too literally! I do not want the constant eye contact so much that it makes me feel uncomfortable, and makes you seem creepy.
Stop the googly eyes! Now I say!

Then, you all seem to be taking way too much an interest in how my day went or what my job is. My job is not that interesting, really, I don;t have much to say about it, and when I am not at work, I do not want to think about work or talk about work!!! And to want to hear every detail of my day, what did I eat, what did I do at work, what did I do after work. If I say I had a routine day then I did, the details are boring, and you actually aren;t interest, you just have read somewhere that you are supposed to act interested.

Women don;'t want that stuff, just be yourselves, make conversation about the news of the day, politics, social issues, your hobbies, general stuff that we both can chime in on, and maybe find some common ground. Talk about vacations you liked, books, movies, tv shows, sports, what you do in your spare time, stories from when you were a kid, what you were like in high school, colllege, a

and when you talk about what you do, just give the in a nut shell version, I don't want the 2 hour in depth version of what you do. When we ask about your day, the same - we are being polite, making small talk, don;t give every detail, just say your day was fine, or went well, that's all! unless something really spectacular and out of the ordinary happened, be it good or bad, then that is worth sharing.

I am done having boring conversations where all we do is talk about our jobs and our day!!!
Damn I am glad I am not dating you!

A man can't make small talk by asking about you job or how you day went but you can ask these things. You are just being polite by asking these things but if a man asks these things it is not just being polite. Talk about a double standard.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #4  September 17,2009, 8:02pm
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...things seem to have gotten quiet around here.

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I've never read any of these books. If you don't like the topic of conversation....just change the subject. You don't have to talk about those things.
 
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exactly jay jay.

The worst situation is being the person that initiates everything.

Nothing like having a dead fish on the line and trying to start a conversation only to have that fish snap back at you for the lousy job you're doing as a conversationalist.

If you don't like it, you initiate what you want.
 
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Harvey7 is offline Harvey7 Post #6  September 17,2009, 11:29pm

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I think that your unhappy and frustrated with your job. Most people spend as much time on the job then they do at home. Thus if your unhappy with your life or 50% of the time change it, find a job that you enjoy going to work so you have some positive things to talk about and stop blaming other people for your unhappiness. We all like to talk about things that we enjoy and that gives us emotional fulfillment. That is one of your points of frustration emotional satisfaction and your not alone it's called growing up and doing for yourself. Look on the net and find a new job maybe get your resume re-written. Perk up at least you have a solution.

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I've never read the books you mention. I'm a woman and I like it when a man shows genuine interest in my employment, career aspirations and achievements. I far prefer that over chit-chat - hands down!

Oh and, when I ask about his day, it is because I am interested in what he has to say and what he experienced. When I don't ask, that's when he should be worried. As it is, with me, indicative of lack of interest.
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I have read that Mars/Venus book and, not sure it is feminist, just another bit of mostly bad advice peppered with a bit of common sense you could have worked out for yourself anyway!

A bit like the e-Harmony advice articles really!
 
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I don't think that many men have read it (but I have no idea, really - seems like it's very popular but most people that I meet, men & women, have [yet?] to read it.) I have though. As with most books (virtually all "self-help" stuff), you can't simply blindly, unthinkingly follow exactly what they say. Anyway maybe you're just venting. You could always turn the anger into something more productive like educating guys, or writing your own book. :-O
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Gr8Guyn2008 wrote :
Damn I am glad I am not dating you!

A man can't make small talk by asking about you job or how you day went but you can ask these things. You are just being polite by asking these things but if a man asks these things it is not just being polite. Talk about a double standard.
I didn;t say he couldn't ask, but he needs to not be pushy, once I answer my day was fine, go on to another subject, like the ones I suggested! If a woman doesn't want to talk about something, then get the point and move on. There is so much more to a woman than what she does for a living, ask about her, not her job.
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