Sarcasm and Irony--Good Humor or Bad Humor


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justme27 is offline justme27 Post #1  September 13,2009, 12:49pm
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So my kind of joking involves a lot of sarcasm and irony. I'm not interested in banter as I find it too be too aggressive for my tastes. However, the problem with sarcasm and irony is that some people don't get it or actually take it literally. My question for you e-harmony genius's

1. What kind of humor do you prefer?
2. Sarcasm and Irony good humor or bad humor?
3. What does it say about someone who doesn't get sarcasm and irony?

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howlong is offline howlong Post #2  September 13,2009, 12:51pm
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Sarcastic and Dry is my style
Its sweet
Simply put they dont know you well enough
 
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1. i tend towards sarcasm with a walk away. the girlfriend of one of my coworkers described my humor saying i stand quietly watching and deliver one hilarious comment before walking away

2. sarcasm is the root of humor. only the small minded see sarcasm as bad humor and get offended

3. yea i went there
 
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trixie1868 is offline trixie1868 Post #4  September 13,2009, 12:59pm

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justme27 wrote :
1. What kind of humor do you prefer?
2. Sarcasm and Irony good humor or bad humor?
3. What does it say about someone who doesn't get sarcasm and irony?

Excellent thread idea by the way.

1) Clever stuff. I do like the banter; if it can be very dry, witty, fast and with the most far reaching references covering both high and low culture all the better. Think Seth MacFarlane.

2) Sarcasm and irony = excellent humour, if, they're also clever. Otherwise it just comes over mean and grouchy.... and rude.

3) It says they don't get sarcasm and irony, neither of which is compulsory but, speaking personally, it's unlikely to work in the long run.

This was neither sarcastic nor ironic. Just to be real clear.
 
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howlong wrote :
Sarcastic and Dry is my style
Its sweet
Simply put they dont know you well enough
Oh brilliant, I think that is exactly it: they don't know you well enough. Great response.
 
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Nanette is offline Nanette Post #6  September 13,2009, 1:11pm
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op i'm with you. i tend to intensely dislike banter.

sarcasm can be funny. when i get sarcastic with someone its because i feel comfortable with them. i can dish it out and i can take it, but if i sense that someone is dishing it back because they are offended that is a completely off putting to me and i wont usually joke around with them again and will probably avoid talking to them. my perception is that they probably take themselves way too seriously.
 
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Nanette wrote :
. my perception is that they probably take themselves way too seriously.
I think that is also part of the equation. So so far the equation is:

Offense = unfamiliarity + talking self too seriously.
 
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1. Usually I prefer the type of humor that is gentle and gracious enough to be delivered so everyone present can laugh.

2. Irony is the root of Humor. Neither Irony nor Sarcasam are "good" or "bad", per se. Those qualities are determined by the delivery and the context. An example of extremes might be Don Rickles and Bob Newhart.

3. Any "statement" made by any sarcasm (or irony) is 99% about the person issuing the humor and only 1% about the "audiance".

In this country there is a huge number of very, very rude people who attempt to legitimize their rudeness by trying to pass it off as "humor" and rush to accuse anyone who doesn't accept that as "not having a sense of humor" or being "too ___ to get it". Often these ultra-rude people describe themselves as having "a dry sense of humor" and hope that will induce others to tolerate the rude, mean-hearted comments they love to make.
 
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justme27 wrote :
I think that is also part of the equation. So so far the equation is:

Offense = unfamiliarity + talking self too seriously.
Seneca wrote :
1. a huge number of very, very rude people who attempt to legitimize their rudeness by trying to pass it off as "humor" and rush to accuse anyone who doesn't accept that as "not having a sense of humor" or being "too ___ to get it". Often these ultra-rude people describe themselves as having "a dry sense of humor" and hope that will induce others to tolerate the rude, mean-hearted comments they love to make.
I agree with Seneca.

If someone has to know you well to get when you're being funny then you're probably not very funny. Professional comedians are funny, they don't individually and personally know their audiences.

If people are often offended by your brand of "sarcasm" but you still find that amusing then there's a good chance that you don't have a sense of humour either. Isn't that just enjoying being spiteful?

I don't get how anyone could appreciate sarcasm and irony and at the same time reject wholesale the notion of banter. Surely it's the bouncing back and forth that takes a dry observation into the realm of funny.

Or am I just taking myself, and apparently this post, too seriously?
 
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justme27 wrote :
1. What kind of humor do you prefer?
2. Sarcasm and Irony good humor or bad humor?
3. What does it say about someone who doesn't get sarcasm and irony?
I like a lot of different kinds of humor, as long as they are clever (no Stooges please).

I do like sarcasm and irony.

I have a couple of ideas of why some don't get sarcasm and irony.

Some people just haven't been around others that use sarcasm--they expect what you say is to be taken literally because that is what all of their previous interactions have taught them.

Sometimes the sarcastic joke is simply not funny or it is in poor taste--it doesn't mean that the person doesn't get the humor (much like the rudeness comment by seneca above).

I also find that I myself sometimes miss it when someone is being sarcastic when I am on the phone--I sometimes need visual cues that the person is joking.
 
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