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Ok, Ladyjuju is back with probably another not liked subject or opinion that isn't in keeping with all the non-dating, sitting behind a keyboard,lack of dating quarter-back dating experts who think or want to think they know it all!!
Honestly, it is kind of like the blind leading the blind in many cases on these boards. Everyone has an opinion, but if we were all such experts at dating and relationships, don't you think we would be in one? or at least experiencing what others are??
It is amusing to hear some of the advice from people who haven't been on a date in god knows how long? And whom have probably experienced the same things of what the OP is talking about, yet they want to offer their "wisdom" in what to do, what is right, yadayada yada................
Something just does not add up here! If we all are so knowledgeable about what is right, what to look for, what to put up with, what not to put up with, which guys or gals to date, and which ones not too, why are we still here? We should be experiencing the ultimate in the "greatest relationship ".
So those of you who are fortunate enough to have dates, enjoy them, explore them for what they are! If it does not work out, go on to the next one! You will strike it rich one day........without the opinions of those here...take whatever you hear here with a grain of salt, ( or tell them to pound salt) At least you are not sitting behind a computer screen day and night making judgements against others who are experiencing life and exploring relationships!
- September 10th, 2009, 07:38 pm
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Hey ... stop that ... I'm trying post here ...

Oh, quit nibbling on my - ow! - can't you see the OP needs help?

LadyJuJu, in my opinion ... oh, yea, gimme some more of that ... I suggest ... ohhhh ... you consider ... mmmmm ...

Say what? Who has no success?

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- September 10th, 2009, 07:44 pm
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D_Lion wrote :
Hey ... stop that ... I'm trying post here ...

Oh, quit nibbling on my - ow! - can't you see the OP needs help?

LadyJuJu, in my opinion ... oh, yea, gimme some more of that ... I suggest ... ohhhh ... you consider ... mmmmm ...

Say what? Who has no success?
Well, at least you make me laugh!
- September 10th, 2009, 07:48 pm
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Wow. I like the subject, don't dislike the opinion, but do have a different perspective about it...[WARNING: Long post acomin']

I agree that a few people are a little heavy on the sanctimony sometimes, the name-calling, and the judgment, especially if others don't agree with whatever negative trait they're convinced everybody of a particular group displays, but I think most people on these boards give reasoned, thoughtful, and respectful opinions based on their experiences. I really believe that's true. If most people were nasty and negative here, as many more people are on other message boards (pick one, pick ANY one) I wouldn't participate.

I think experience is funny in that it doesn't always guarantee that things will go the way you want them to in the future, especially where dating is concerned, because the other element in the equation that cannot be controlled is people. I think experience helps you make better decisions about YOUR actions; your experience doesn't do much to control what others do, though.

I also think that people are largely unpredictable, uncontrollable, and do the darndest things, despite your best efforts. Despite the propensity of some people to ascribe traits to "most" or the generalized "men" and "women" when they give their take on what the opposite sex does, you just can't ever tell what another human being not named you will do most of the time. Heck, sometimes I shock myself with the things I do and say...and type; how can I possibly declare with any kind of certainty what a man will do.

What I do know with certainty is that the people we meet aren't always on the same level of understanding, maturity, and experience that we may be on. So you can be as wise as older Solomon about dating and relationships all you want, but if you keep meeting people who are on a younger Solomon's level of understanding about dating and relationships, you might have quite a bit of alone time on your hands. Why not find some nice people to talk about this enigma called dating with? At least looking at what others have and are going through, you definitely know that it's not just you.

Also, if you know what you're looking for in a mate, I think you're more selective in the very initial stages of dating. You know the kind of person you want to spend time with, so dating just anybody just for the sake of dating somebody isn't appealing to you. You know the younger Solomons get on your nerves, and you'd rather wait until you come across someone you think (hope) is an older Solomon type rather than spend a lot of your precious time and energy being ticked off at the young'uns.

But...maybe that's just me...

I wish it were true that your experience and wisdom equals you getting the outcome you want when you think you should have it, but because the one important factor that you can't really control in dating is other people, I just don't think that's the case. Believe me...I so wish it were the case.

But here's the GREAT thing about experience - what you've learned isn't voided if you're not where you want to be yet. And even if you don't have what you want yet, your experience might help someone else get a little closer to what they want. I think that's pretty sweet.

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- September 10th, 2009, 08:34 pm
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D_Lion wrote :
Hey ... stop that ... I'm trying post here ...

Oh, quit nibbling on my - ow! - can't you see the OP needs help?

LadyJuJu, in my opinion ... oh, yea, gimme some more of that ... I suggest ... ohhhh ... you consider ... mmmmm ...

Say what? Who has no success?
OH, POUR SALT IN THE WOUND, D, POUR SALT IN IT AND RUB IT IN WHY DON'TCHU!!!
- September 10th, 2009, 08:36 pm
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Ladyjuju so why don't you take your own advice?
- September 10th, 2009, 08:41 pm
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While I don't necessarily like your condescending and antogonistic approach ...I'll bite ...
Ladyjuju wrote :
Honestly, it is kind of like the blind leading the blind in many cases on these boards. Everyone has an opinion, but if we were all such experts at dating and relationships, don't you think we would be in one?
While it may be true that some of us aren't in relationships at the moment, it should go without saying that most of us have been in a relationships before ...and, as a whole, we have life experience - some more, some less, some better, some worse - but this is the advice we are passing on. To say that no one here is 'qualified' to offer our opinions to others because we aren't currently in a successful relationship at this exact moment is ...well ...an idiotic statement.
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Something just does not add up here! If we all are so knowledgeable about what is right, what to look for, what to put up with, what not to put up with, which guys or gals to date, and which ones not too, why are we still here?
And, sadly, we don't have the entire world lined up in front of us from which to choose, we just have what is available to us via personal connections and, in most of our cases, local online connections ...and, even more sadly, the world is chock-full of liars and users to weed out first.
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So those of you who are fortunate enough to have dates, enjoy them, explore them for what they are! If it does not work out, go on to the next one! You will strike it rich one day........without the opinions of those here
Yes, by all means, go out, have fun ...be as narcissistic and co-dependent as you can be, use other people for your own selfish entertainment, if you can't beat the liars and the users - join them! Typical.
The bottom line here is, this is a relationship/dating advice forum. People come here asking for help, they are confused, hurting, and in emotional distress ...we (the community) are merely offering our opinions based on our life experiences, we are not forcing anyone to take that opinion as gospel or even to read/listen to it. At the end of the day, they have to make their own decisions on how to deal with their problem, whatever it is ...if we've given them options to think about that they otherwise would not have come up with on their own, bully for us! and if we somehow are able to say something meaningful to them that gives them the hope, courage, and knowledge to overcome their difficulty, all the better.
The entire venue of support groups and professional therapy is built on the exact same principles that are practiced here ...are they the "blind leading the blind" also?
- September 10th, 2009, 08:43 pm
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I don't think Ladyjuju was being intentionally condescending or antagonistic, BikerBeagle. I maybe she was being intentionally provocative; all the smiley emoticons softened all that possible antagonism for me.

But then I'm a sucker for smiley emoticons...
- September 10th, 2009, 08:53 pm
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- September 10th, 2009, 08:54 pm
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I think Jacquiem is right all around. Might I add to that though tha if I wasn't as choosy I am now I could have been in relationships with ten different people at least by now. The fact is I pick things up so fast now that after a date or two I often see things, like they are controlling or have a bad temper, and I know where that is headed so I bail.

If I understood in my twenties what I understand now, as some of my friends DID, I think I would more then likely still be married as most of them are because I would have picked better. I, like I suspect most of us here, grew up with parents that were in a pretty dysfunctional relationship. In the end, you are going to model what you see and fall in love with people like your parents. If one or more of your parents is very dysfunctional you may have a hard time no matter what you do cause you keep falling in love with their doppleganger! As you get older you gain insight to try to circumvent this. Honestly I think it is easier sometimes if your parents got divorced, at least you don't grow up thinking, "this is the way to behave in a relationship."

Even Dr. Drew talks about this on that addiction show he has set in his clinic. That he thinks this is huge and rarely discussed. That people fall in love with copies of their parent. And if the parents are not relationship material, guess what, your new love probably isn't either.

I will tell you some really great insight I know aobut me that I wish I had when I was younger. If I feel that instant attraction I need to run for the hills. Especially if I feel strangely repulsed but attracted to someone. I know for sure they are crazy crazy crazy then. I DID NOT know that when I was younger but wish someone had explained this to me.

And then there are the shop around guys. Oh at this age I can see it so clearly. They shop around until they think they have attained the top of what they can get. That means that while they are dating someone they are still shoppin', maybe not cheating even but putting out the feelers, looking to see if they can get a prettier, younger, whatever whatever girl. I have had several of the shoppers hit on me, while they are dating someone I know. But of course its ok because they are not commited to the other person. Just dragging them around by their heart! Then eventually you hear these two are getting married.

And the saga continues...
- September 10th, 2009, 09:00 pm
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