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justme27 is offline justme27 Post #1  September 5,2009, 11:12am
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I know this is a dating forum but I have a friendship question--I hope the mods don't mind. Ok, I'm doing a PhD program. I'm a pretty social guy and like meeting new people. So I met this nice girl in one of my summer classes and we immediately hit it off, same personality same sarcastic joking style. We hung and had a beer during happy hour and I thought hey great I made a new friend. I started meeting other people so I asked her if she wanted to grab a beer with some of our other classmates. We came up with suggestions and decided to invite two other classmates--people who we were both comfortable with. In the end when I last spoke with her it was going to be the two classmates, a friend of hers and her brother. So I thought great this should be a fun time.

The night arrives we all meet and start grabbing drink. I'm really enjoying myself. When I see two classmates, who I don't know, walking up to our table. They are two hot foreign exchange students from Germany. At first I thought, oh what a coincidence I hope they don't hang out with us. Well, it turns out that someone invited them. I think it was the girl who I met originally. I don't like dealing with hot chicks; I'm dedicated right now towards my PhD. So my response was just to be social, chat a little with them, and leave early.

I'm trying to figure out why I feel betrayed? I know it's not rational. But I still can't help feeling like something rude happened. I was not informed they were invited, nor even hinted at that anyone else would invite them or anyone else. So, someone please tell me what's going on?

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Not sure what you are asking about here?? Was the "friend" you were invited to be with supposed to become a relationship or??
 
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Because you expected someone to act based upon some unspoken criteria you had. your friend had no idea you didnt want hot girls around or that you were trying to limit your contact for any reason. maybe she thought more people would make it more fun or whatever.
 
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Hi Nanette, I am forced to agree with you on this one (lol)
 
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Not sure what you are asking about here?? Was the "friend" you were invited to be with supposed to become a relationship or??
Sorry, if I'm not being clear. This is not a relationship question, it is a matter of friendship. I just feel like my trust has been violated by inviting people who I don't feel comfortable being around, without any notice.
 
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Nanette wrote :
Because you expected someone to act based upon some unspoken criteria you had. your friend had no idea you didnt want hot girls around or that you were trying to limit your contact for any reason. maybe she thought more people would make it more fun or whatever.
Great reply Nanette. That's right the rule was unspoken and I did have expectations that may be unreasonable. But what should I do next? I haven't spoken to this girl since we met that night. Should I say, "Hey next time we go out please give me heads as to who is going, so I can determine whether I want to go?" Or would that be making an issue out of it? I don't want to lose her as a friend but for some reason I feel peeved about this.
 
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To begin with you lack a social IQ and are also socially immature. What does meeting two hot chicks have to do with your Phd.? " I don't like dealing with hot chicks; I'm dedicated right now towards my PhD." ?
That is from a socializing point of view, DUMB!

Now to your question, you expected to have drinks with the young lady and move to the next higher level of making out and see where that leaves you? But being socially immature you could not handle yourself with 3 hot chicks, thus you felt betrayed that she set you up so that she did not have to deal with you one on one! But it was your idea to invite some other class mates to join you for socializing, so you did it to yourself! So your annoyed at yourself and trying to fix the blame elsewhere. Next time take her out as a date.

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To begin with you lack a social IQ and are also socially immature. What does meeting two hot chicks have to do with your Phd.? " I don't like dealing with hot chicks; I'm dedicated right now towards my PhD." ?
That is from a socializing point of view, DUMB!

Now to your question, you expected to have drinks with the young lady and move to the next higher level of making out and see where that leaves you? But being socially immature you could not handle yourself with 3 hot chicks, thus you felt betrayed that she set you up so that she did not have to deal with you one on one! But it was your idea to invite some other class mates to join you for socializing, so you did it to yourself! So your annoyed at yourself and trying to fix the blame elsewhere. Next time take her out as a date.

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Dude Harvey, I like your response and thanks but I have absolutely no interest in this girl. I'll be the first to admit that my social IQ is low, I'm a total geek. But I can't focus on a relationship and school at the same time, also I'm a religious man so I'm not interested in casual sex. I like your response, but what I don't get is this, "thus you felt betrayed that she set you up so that she did not have to deal with you one on one!" What do you mean by that? We had a beer together before and it went well. Are you implying that she invited these girls so that I wouldn't hit on her? Because I've never remotely come close to hitting on her. Also, she invited her brother and a friend so if she didn't want to deal with me they were there too? Please elaborate, I think you are on to something.
 
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If she did indeed invite them, your friend (being female) also may not have thought of the other women as "hot foreign exchange students" instead of simply as fellow classmates. Or, she may have simply run into them and invited them along. Or, maybe someone else did. Or, she or one of the others may have thought that it would be especially hospitable to invite the foreign students to make them feel welcome in another country.

I'm glad that you recognize that your reaction is not rational (it's not like someone invited strangers to join a dinner party at your house -- it was a congenial gathering of friends and classmates in a public setting).

I wonder if you are trying to exert control over your environment because of your worries about being able to succeed in graduate school? If you feel that you won't be able to focus on your studies as you need to if there are any unknowns out there... The truth is, though, that we have very limited control over our anything but ourselves. So, you can't prevent attractive women from crossing your path. You can't prevent people from becoming friends with others. You can't control who gathers in a public place....

You can, though, have some control over your own reactions. Do you just "go with the flow," accept the change in plans, and enjoy the evening (usually the best option)? Do you get angry or hurt, but deal with it? Do you get upset and continue to harbor resentment?

See if you can think a little more deeply about what the real issue is here for you and focus on figuring out how to deal with that (e.g., anxiety about not being in control of your surroundings, past experiences where a friend betrayed you, etc...I don't of course know what the issues might be for you...).

In the future, if you want to limit who participates in such an event, then you may want to organize it yourself and issue the invitations ("I'm organizing a small group to go out for drinks on Friday; would you like to join us?). And, make it clear to your friend here that you're limiting the invitation list...

(Oh; and by the way...lol. Even "hot chicks" can be really nice people and good friends if you give yourself a chance to get to know them. )
 
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If she did indeed invite them, your friend (being female) also may not have thought of the other women as "hot foreign exchange students" instead of simply as fellow classmates. Or, she may have simply run into them and invited them along. Or, maybe someone else did. Or, she or one of the others may have thought that it would be especially hospitable to invite the foreign students to make them feel welcome in another country.

I'm glad that you recognize that your reaction is not rational (it's not like someone invited strangers to join a dinner party at your house -- it was a congenial gathering of friends and classmates in a public setting).

I wonder if you are trying to exert control over your environment because of your worries about being able to succeed in graduate school? If you feel that you won't be able to focus on your studies as you need to if there are any unknowns out there... The truth is, though, that we have very limited control over our anything but ourselves. So, you can't prevent attractive women from crossing your path. You can't prevent people from becoming friends with others. You can't control who gathers in a public place....

You can, though, have some control over your own reactions. Do you just "go with the flow," accept the change in plans, and enjoy the evening (usually the best option)? Do you get angry or hurt, but deal with it? Do you get upset and continue to harbor resentment?

See if you can think a little more deeply about what the real issue is here for you and focus on figuring out how to deal with that (e.g., anxiety about not being in control of your surroundings, past experiences where a friend betrayed you, etc...I don't of course know what the issues might be for you...).

In the future, if you want to limit who participates in such an event, then you may want to organize it yourself and issue the invitations ("I'm organizing a small group to go out for drinks on Friday; would you like to join us?). And, make it clear to your friend here that you're limiting the invitation list...

(Oh; and by the way...lol. Even "hot chicks" can be really nice people and good friends if you give yourself a chance to get to know them. )
Whoa, that was brilliant and really helpful. I think you are right 100%; you hit the nail on the head. There is so much to digest here, this is so valuable: I really, really appreciate your reply and thoughfulness.

However, I want to clarify. I'm not a controlling person. I've never been the jealous or possessive type in relationships. So, I hope I don't come across as creepy. Thanks for the reply though. I really appreciate it.
 
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