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I agree the guy probably should have just skipped the workout for that night, but 2 hours isn't all that long to go the club, workout, shower, and get to where you plan to meet.
Why should he have skipped his workout? Skipping workouts can ( for many people) become a bad habit, once they start skipping. How do we know that he hadn't already rearranged his workout schedule all that he could/should have for that week? Maybe in another week, he might be able to move Friday's workout to Saturday... or workout Friday morning instead of Friday evening. Maybe there are good reasons he chose not to do so during this particular week.

My entire workout routine is designed with a method to the madness. The order and timing of my workouts have reason. Each workout has a specific purpose and each correlates to the other workouts of the week. Its a systematic thing.

Sure, there are times when I need to be flexible and bump up Wednesday's workout to another day. But for the most part, its best to adhere to my program as planned/designed.... that is if I care about overall, long-term results and progress. And I do care about that. Very much. Too much juggling and rearranging can compromise/hinder results & progress.

Anyone who can't appreciate how important this is, to me, is not likely to be very fitness-oriented, himself. Or even if he is fitness-oriented at heart, he certainly doesn't have enough knowledge about the construct of a good, solid, well-designed program. It doesn't take up an unreasonable amount of time but it does require commitment... and the timing is important.
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This girl has self esteem/jealousy issues, I think. The problem is NOT the gym.

I'm in the gym 1.5 hours most days during the week and 2.5 hours on Saturdays. Tthis isn't excessive, by the way - if you're working on losing weight like I am and you have other health challenges that make it very difficult to lose weight, 60 minutes of cardio plus some strength training is absolutely necessary. Even if it wasn't, I just like going to the gym. Some people knit, some people draw, some people hop on an elliptical and sweat.

Back to the subject, this girl is afraid of losing her newly hot boyfriend to another woman at the gym. She should either trust him or go to the gym with him to keep an eye on him and the salacious women lurking behind the Stairmaster to pounce upon him, but she should definitely be more supportive of her boyfriend's accomplishments and further goals.

And he should probably do some of those bodybuilder poses for her, with the baby oil and tiny undies. That might help things...
- August 26th, 2009, 09:38 pm
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sheera007 wrote :
......My entire workout routine is designed with a method to the madness. The order and timing of my workouts have reason. Each workout has a specific purpose and each correlates to the other workouts of the week. Its a systematic thing.
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Well, we're certainly going to be looking in different pools for guys we're compatible with, Sheera! (That's a good thing.)

I would not be compatible with anyone who had such a compulsive, strict, inflexible exercise schedule. And.... a person can be perfectly healthy with a much less regimented workout schedule. Twenty minutes a day, 5 days a week is enough for most people for general health, flexibility and tone. If you've got specific athletic goals in mind you'd probably want more, but it is NOT necessary for general health and well being.

If a guy effectively lets me know his workout is more important than me from the get-go, he's just not the guy for me. Period. Other people may feel differently, and that's fine... he'll be more compatible with them.
- August 26th, 2009, 11:18 pm
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sheera007 wrote :
My entire workout routine is designed with a method to the madness. The order and timing of my workouts have reason. Each workout has a specific purpose and each correlates to the other workouts of the week. Its a systematic thing.

Sure, there are times when I need to be flexible and bump up Wednesday's workout to another day. But for the most part, its best to adhere to my program as planned/designed.... that is if I care about overall, long-term results and progress. And I do care about that. Very much. Too much juggling and rearranging can compromise/hinder results & progress.
One question for you:


Do you number your bananas?
- August 27th, 2009, 04:14 am
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I would not be compatible with anyone who had such a compulsive, strict, inflexible exercise schedule.
I don't like to combine threads together, but I think your comment about being habitually late and uninterested in changing that, explains a lot.

The issue here is not whether working out is important or not, it's about the importance and priority of "schedule" in a person's life. I have a workout schedule and it's important to me. When I commit to doing something (even if the commitment is just to myself), I show up on time. I make plans, and I stick to them. These things don't make me "compulsive, strict or inflexible".

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If a guy effectively lets me know his workout is more important than me from the get-go, he's just not the guy for me. Period.
This is very telling too. I wonder - what other words would you substitute for "workout"? Religion? Family? Friends? How much "life" does a match need to drop for you? Can he schedule his workouts at the same time as dates with you, since you'll always be late?

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And.... a person can be perfectly healthy with a much less regimented workout schedule. Twenty minutes a day, 5 days a week is enough for most people for general health, flexibility and tone.
Thanks, but I'll get my fitness advice elsewhere.
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sheera007 wrote :
or the most part, its best to adhere to my program as planned/designed.... Anyone who can't appreciate how important this is, to me, is not likely to be very fitness-oriented, himself. ... It doesn't take up an unreasonable amount of time but it does require commitment... and the timing is important.
This is true about all hobbies or activities. They require time and commitment. I have no tolerance for anyone who claims not to understand that, and I won't spend a lot of time defending it either. Some people think "exercise" means walking on the treadmill and talking on the cell phone.
- August 27th, 2009, 07:54 am
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One question for you:


Do you number your bananas?
You just git on out to the garage, and play with your Mercedes grills and toys. Don't worry about what I'm doing in here with these bananas.

- August 27th, 2009, 06:06 pm
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melman wrote :
This is true about all hobbies or activities. They require time and commitment. I have no tolerance for anyone who claims not to understand that, and I won't spend a lot of time defending it either. Some people think "exercise" means walking on the treadmill and talking on the cell phone.

Actually walking is probably one of the best exercises of all. You don't need to jog or run, in fact, it's medically proven that a brisk walk gives one a great work out, without the wear and tear on the knees, hamstrings, and back! I agree that everyone needs exercise to a certain extent, but unless your training for a medal in the Olympics, some people take it too far! And I do understand that many who exercise regularily become almost hooked on the endorphons ( probably spelled wrong, but don't hang me for this please!), its like a drug, the more you experience, the more you want! A lot of Olympians will testify to this! I do like someone who is fit, but I don't like muscle men or a man that has a bigger chest than I do!
Everything in moderation! And we are all made up of different sizes and shapes, so we all cannot look like Barbie and Ken!.......no matter how much exercise we do!
- August 27th, 2009, 06:28 pm
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I would not be compatible with anyone who had such a compulsive, strict, inflexible exercise schedule.
"compulsive" ?
Compulsive as in:
  • a strong irresistable impulse?
  • an impulse so compelling that it is almost impossible to control?
Actually, it takes a lot of discipline, for me, to adhere to my dietary and workout plans. Quite a lot! It is hardly "compulsive" by any stre-e-e-etch of the imagination.


"Strict" ?
Yes, I do need to be pretty "strict" with myself at times. That's not to say that it requires all my time... and that I don't have a life outside of my fitness routine.


"Inflexible" ?
Not so. As I stated in as earlier post, there are times when I do need make a few schedule adjustments. There's a HUGE difference from being flexible and slacking off altogether.

A certain amount of discipline, focus, dedication is required to achieve/maintain any worthwhile goal - not only those which are fitness-related. Does that mean that a person needs to be totally "inflexible"? Of course not. But there is a line between flexible and noncompliance.


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Twenty minutes a day, 5 days a week is enough for most people for general health, flexibility and tone. If you've got specific athletic goals in mind you'd probably want more, but it is NOT necessary for general health and well being.
According to whom? According to which "expert"?And what is meant by "general health and well being"?

I'm assuming that you're not referring to the positive mental-health and confidence that comes along with a finely-tuned physique. Or the positive mental-health which accompanies the self-satisfaction & pride for a job-well-done (having achieved specific health & fitness goals). So...

Could you mean the health benefits such as:
  • preventing age-related bone-loss and muscle-loss?
  • preserving bone-density in order to significantly reduce risk of osteoporosis?
  • preserving muscle-strength and muscle-density to help support the skeletal structure, so that we can stand/walk erect all the way into and through our Golden Years?

Sorry, but this requires a bit more planning, commitment, dedication and time than you suggest. As I said... it does not require a lot of time. But it does require a certain amount.

My schedule is "strict" but it is not excessive. It is well-structured and very well-designed. Most people spend more time sitting on their outta-shape buns, watching TV and Movies and/or clowning around online... each week/month... than I spend at the gym.
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[quote=Wonderwoman402;722242]... a person can be perfectly healthy with a much less regimented workout schedule. Twenty minutes a day, 5 days a week is enough for most people for general health, flexibility and tone.

As a practical matter is it impossible to perform a workout in 20 minutes. It takes at least 5 minutes to properly warm-up and another 10 minutes to stretch prior to a vigorous workout. All valid medical studies have shown that cardio workouts require at least 30 minutes at a moderate-high exertion rate to be effective, with the consensus being that cardio workouts should be performed 4 times per week. Even if one were to forgo stretching, the minimum effective cardio workout would be 35-40 minutes long.

Of course, most physicians now also recommend weight training for the reasons that Sheera stated above. Just doing 2 sets of 10-12 repetitions (the minimum necessary for maintaining muscle tone) adds at least 5 minutes per exercise. Thus, if one were to only do 4 wt exercises (curl for arms, rows for back, bench press and leg press) that's another 20 minutes.
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