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mark, you seem like a nice, smart, kind of guy that can quote shakespeare....maybe you just have an issue with your approach, bad luck (or the gender ratio in Austin IS really bad...) maybe you are picking the wrong girls, I dont know.

But I imagine it is something more minor than major, and it's not lame to be polite and say something nice in return.

Sure beats being bitter or rude...or....shooting the place up!
- August 11th, 2009, 07:59 pm
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MarkInAustin wrote :
I am reminded of my favorite Shakespeare line [Henry V, Act 5 scene ii]:

King Henry V: ...but thy speaking of my tongue, and I thine, most truly-falsely, must needs be granted to be much at one. But, Kate, dost thou understand thus much English, canst thou love me?

Katharine: I cannot tell

King Henry V: Can any of your neighbors tell, Kate? I'll ask them.

Mark give it time. Women can be as shallow as men--let a woman get to know you. My best relationships have always been with guys I got to know first.

On things to do have you gone to shakesphere in the park ? I had a date there--- it was a great date -- just the wrong guy.
- August 11th, 2009, 08:40 pm
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cp30 wrote :
a FAVOR! oh brother.....
I'll take pity on YOU cp....want a date? lol
- August 11th, 2009, 09:15 pm
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butterflywhisperer wrote :
sounds dumb but come up with a few responses, practice them, and then you have them at hand if necessary. preparedness is key, especially if you don't think too quickly on your feet then it might be the best way.
Careful, careful here. If it is too rehersed, it comes across as an insincere cheesy pick-up.
- August 11th, 2009, 09:22 pm
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cp30 wrote :
a FAVOR! oh brother.....
Yeah, I'm with you on this one...
- August 11th, 2009, 09:31 pm
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jayjay wrote :
I'll take pity on YOU cp....want a date? lol
oh come on now, that would be a favor to me! I'd be forever indebted to your kindness for sinking so low!
- August 11th, 2009, 09:42 pm
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cp30 wrote :
have you ever had a woman say "no" and nothing else? or are you just looking out for the no and focusing on it?

usually its more like a "I can't because I have to *fill in the blak*" or "I'm sorry I'm married"

usually, you repond to the reason she is giving you...and you say something like "well, maybe some other time, it was nice talking to you" or "what a lucky guy! well it was nice talking to you!" or "that is too bad, well let me know if you ever need help with that "fill in the blank"

if a woman is just saying flat out "no" to you and not giving you a segway out of mere politeness, believe me...you don't want to date that woman anyway!
The "No" is usually followed by "not if you were the last guy on earth".
- August 11th, 2009, 10:14 pm
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seriously!?!?!
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The "No" is usually followed by "not if you were the last guy on earth".
You have to be kidding!!!!
- August 11th, 2009, 10:27 pm
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Don't ambush her with your dating request. Let's say you're at a department or company social. Here she is, minding her own business, hanging out, chitchatting with her colleagues, or maybe just standing by herself, and you pop out of nowhere and ask her for a date? Or do you introduce yourself, find out about her background, her work, any SOs in her life? Smile and focus on her words. Establish the friendship first.

Then compliment her and go in for the sale: "You're such an attractive and interesting person. I'd sure like to hear more about your research on phylloxera-resistant rootstock and how it could improve wine grape production in Croatia. Can we go out some time? Are you free this weekend? Can I get your phone number?"

If she seems hesitant, or off-putting, just tell her you enjoyed talking with her, and that you hope to see her around sometime. Leave her with a good impression. You may not have made the sale then, but you may have another opportunity later. She'll have time to think about you, and decide to say "yes" the second time.

(Women do think like this -- just watch how they shop for purses and shoes! )
- August 11th, 2009, 11:06 pm
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