MrsMalcolmDarcy is offline MrsMalcolmDarcy Post #91  October 27,2009, 9:22pm
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I believe people who have animals (pets) have a insecurity sickness. Some even call them there kids, or sayings like they understand me,thier always there for me, I dont know what ill do w/out them or it. Thay lack the ability to comunicate with humans becuase humans talk back think for them self and have appinions,they agree $ disagree, BIG PLUS if you like a CLEAN ODERLESS HOUSE, humans dont track (STUFF) in $all over the house, We dont take #1s or #2s any & everywhere that includes spraying your turf, We dont shed or fur, claw the furniture, carpet curtians, ect ect ect. P.S. HERES A LITTLE HINT, PEOPLE LIVE INDOORS ANIMALS LIVE OUTDOORS, This pet thing was and still is a corporate $$$ Scam for the insecure who dont like or cant handle person to person conflict, comunications, or they just dont understand that each person has thier own feelings, likes, wants, needs and desires. TRY GITTING THOSE FROM YOUR ANIMAL (PETS).
Humans selectively bred animals into breeds, some of which do NOT tolerate living exclusively in the elements. Most humane societies and breed rescues will not allow adoptions to someone who plans to have the dog live exclusively outdoors. Most require you to sign a paper saying a cat must live indoors.

Case in point: greyhounds. Selectively bred by royalty over the centuries, possibly millenia, to track via sight and catch due to great speeds which reach over 45 mph. Greyhounds have very little fat. Most people do not realize that fat not only insulates out cold, but also heat. Fat regulates the body temperature. Let outside in extreme temperatures (under 50, over 90), a greyhound would eventually suffer hypothermia or heat exhaustion. Some dogs do better in heat, but many cities/counties have regulations on how long a dog can be left outside in extreme heat (Animal Cops Phoenix). A sledding dog like a husky or samoyed cannot be left outside in heat, but conversely, could be left outside in in freezing temperatures as long as s/he had a way to get out of wind, etc.

Domestic Cats do survive well outside, but humans created them, and created a huge problem of feral cats because of failing to spay/neuter and allowing to roam. Now, yet, they do a great job on rodents, but they also do a number on the native bird (esp. smaller songbirds) populations. My stepfather, who is a naturalist/birder, doesn't have a problem with cats, as long as they're kept inside.

When humans start treating animals like humans, problems start. Try watching the Dog Whisperer. I agree. But animals can have great therapeutic value as well. Ask parents of autistic children who have spoken their first words to a family dog or to a horse a therapeutic riding. Why are there therapy dogs? Why do some elderly people look forward to visits from therapy dogs? No, they don't talk, but sometimes talk isn't what we need.

Pets are a corporate scam? Were there corporations in ancient Egypt? Medieval Europe? In Native American tribes?

I'm glad the pet question weeds out people like you.
 
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MrsMalcolmDarcy is offline MrsMalcolmDarcy Post #92  October 27,2009, 9:46pm
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I thought my 2 dogs might have been a problem.... Laura has 2 giant schnauzers (freaking huge) and 2 horses. (and takes care of over 20 other horses)
Horses aren't quite pets, but come with the same issues and more. Mainly time and money. My ex and I argued over my riding all the time. He said he didn't care as long as we could afford it. But owning a horse is a huge expense. For those that say it is not, they are not taking proper care of their horse. I would say if you had backyard facilities, the cheapest you could keep a horse (not a tiny pony that grows fat on air) is probably $200 month. The cost shoots up exponentially from there. That is probably for a horse that doesn't need shoes. Shoes costs $50 - 300 every 4 - 6 weeks. I gave up my horse when he became a financial burden to my family. It took me longer than it should've to admit it to myself, but I did do it. And I found a home for him with a family who has the money to take care of him properly and retire him when he no longer can be ridden. Horses live 25 - 30 years. Their "useful" life is probably 4-20. You have to be ready to support your horse for the last third of his life. Or more if he has lameness problems as many do. Is it fair to euthanize a horse just because he can't carry you on his back even though he is perfectly happy and comfortable munching grass in a field? I don't think so.

So following that bit of information ... are horses deal breakers? Can you deal with all day horse shows on Saturdays or Sundays? Getting home after dark in the winter because that the only time your SO has time to ride on weekdays? Will you resent the financial output everytime your SO writes a board check for $300, $500, or $800 thinking how much you could accrue in dividends over 15 years? What about the emergency colic surgery to the tune $5000+? Or do you give the thumbs down on the surgery?
 
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cardguy is offline cardguy Post #93  October 27,2009, 10:43pm
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To be perfectly honest, owning a horse would probably be a deal-breaker for me. The money is certainly a big concern there (while I love my family dog, the amount of most money I'll spend on a pet's medical bill is well under 5k), but I think the bigger turnoff might well be the time. It strikes me as the kind of situation where I'd be worked into her relationship with her horse rather than vice versa.
 
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deal breaker. i have a dog and that's not going to change. besides the fact that she's my BFF, i chose the responsibility and i will stand by it.

i will also say that other pet owners' approaches to animals and nature make for a good litmus test as to their compatibility with me. i date a guy who grew up on a dairy farm. i thought that was a good sign until i realised he was all about control over nature, including his own. he was really uptight and leaking around the edges.
 
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Arizonaa is offline Arizonaa Post #95  October 27,2009, 11:12pm
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Pets are definitely deal breakers. I have 2 glorious Great Danes. They are HUGE and in my book if the man I am considering dating doesn't LOVE dogs, there is no point in continuing with that person. I even have amended my eHarmony profile describing how big is big and that if they aren't ok with the dogs they are welcome to click "close". I won't get rid of a dog for a man. I don't want a man that doesn't like dogs. I'm allergic to cats, horribly. I've tried to have them in the past, meds don't work. So if a man has a cat, I'm going to close the match, because I wouldn't expect him to get rid of his cat any more than I would dump my dogs.
 
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