Men - are you put off by independent women?

I see - so you're saying that women who are more dependent have lower standards and b/c of their dependency they will fight to keep what little they have b/c it's all they have.

Thanks, but I'll stay single for the rest of my life if the only alternative is for me to blindly "stand behind my man and fight to keep him".

Your post says nothing about the other half of the relationship and instead arbitrarily assigns fault to the indep. woman by assuming that since she is independent that she is not as dedicated and committed to her relationship solely b/c her solvency does not depend on licking her husband's boots.

Maybe the correct response is that the men who date indep. women are not willing to commit to the relationship because they are either 1) intimidated or 2) can't get the proper level of subservience you seem to find appropriate or 3) that she has a life that does not revolve around him.

Obviously, both your answer and my admittedly sarcastic one above are completely stereotypical, and I would hope that neither is true. The fact that you would present your argument as being reality implies that the woman's commitment is what makes a relationship and ignores all of the other things that go into making a relationship work. However, we certainly agree on one thing - that relationships are hard work - but obviously both sides of the equation need to be committed to it whether they be indepedent or otherwise.

You still missed the entire point of my post and OverAnalyzer's post.

You're still determined to believe that independent women as a general rule aren't committed to developing long term relationships. But in reality, what's happening is that the indep. women you have dated aren't falling all over themselves to "treat you as king" like you want them to.

Have you ever wondered if the reason is because an indep. woman wants someone who recognizes her value and wants to treat her like a queen as much as he wants her to treat him like a king.

Long term relationships are nothing if not about equality in my mind as an indep. woman.

I will bend over backward to make my partner feel loved and happy in a relationship, but not if he's unwilling to reciprocate.

I'm sorry, but I guess you're correct in your thinking because you are never going to find an attractive indep. successful woman who wants to come home from her taxing job and then bust her tail trying to please you and treat you like a king while you sit around and do nothing but enjoy it, which is exactly what it sounds like you want. You seem to want an old-fashioned housewife in the body of an indep. successful woman and by definition they're just about mutually exclusive.

And as one final note, it sounds like you have some serious insecurity issues of your own because if you need the total abject adoration of a dependant woman to make you feel good about yourself, then that alone is going to make you highly unattractive to an indep. woman. An indep. woman is going to be looking for someone who, like herself, can stand on his own two feet. You clearly need some propping up that she may not be willing to provide.

most women don't want to be treated like queens - they want to be treated as equals.

Now now, let's be honest... there's a part of every woman that wants to be treated like a queen.

personally, i'll hold out for a confident man with his stuff together who can appreciate the same qualities in me.

Now now, let's be honest... there's a part of every woman that wants to be treated like a queen.

You are totally missing my point. I go out of my way to treat every women I am involved with like a queen. I think I am the one griping that its not being returned by independent women I meet. Maybe some of these "independent women" you mention should practice what they preach in reality.

And I can and have very well stood on my own two feet and I feel very good about myself. I have gone long stretches in my life without a girlfriend and got by just fine.

Just admit defeat why don't you. The dependent women are just working it better than you. And when I come home from a long day at work and I am dog tired, I don't want to deal with some cold fish.

Now now, let's be honest... there's a part of every woman that wants to be treated like a queen.

That's the tradeoff and balancing act necessary in dating. In some areas women want to be treated as equals and in some areas they do want to be treated quite well. Finding out which areas are which, plus the areas the man agrees with/can accept is the difficult thing.

What about a man who can do that who also treats you like a queen when appropriate?