Advice and Support from Thousands of Users Just Like You

Dating First-date jitters? Hoping for a second date? Moving on to a full blown relationship? Share your journey and advice here.

Reply
 
LinkBack (4) Thread Tools
Mr_Right's Avatar

Mr_Right says check out the new profile picture

Virtuoso

Join Date: Jun 2008

Posts: 2,874

See profile

I'm merely saying that attraction focuses on more superficial things, such as looks, weight, hair length, clothes, and so forth. It heavily involves what people look like. That's the physical chemistry that I'm talking about.

Love is a whole different ball of wax.
- July 7th, 2009, 05:15 am
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#81   Reply With Quote
pds857's Avatar

pds857 Dang! The weekend is flyin in at high speeds, get ready for it people! lol

Enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2009

Posts: 542

See profile

There are men out here that do like someone for who they are.
If half of these guys would take a long look at them self they might see that there are some things about them that people might not like.

Attitude says a lot about someone, and personally if some fella has a cocky attitude or checks himself out a lil too much or takes more time to get ready than I do thats a complete turn off.

Just FYI eH is about stayin 'open minded' the only way its gonna work for people is if they stay open minded and how do people think they are gonna find their 'true love' if they are not?
Your Matched on Compatability. Not just one or two things but on 29 different demintions.

That being said, attraction is a very big part of a lasting relationship. But there are many different things to be attracted to.
Ex.:
Humor- he may not be the best looking fella but he makes me laugh a lot.

Kindness- she may not be the best lookin gal but she's so thoughtful and kind.

Honesty- They may not win any beauty contests but they sure are honest with me.

It just all depends on what your really looking for in a lasting relationship.
I joined eH because I'm tired of the game. I want to meet some one that I 'click' with and that wants the same things as I do for the future. (not just lip service)

My sister who is much heavier than I am found love at 30 and now has a husband, one child here and twins on the way. They've been so happy together, and guess what, he's weighs bout 150 an he's 6'2".
So it does happen a lot more than most people want to think. I just dont understand why some men and women feel they are so perfect that they get to judge another just because of weight.
- July 7th, 2009, 08:41 am
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#82   Reply With Quote
learningasigo's Avatar

learningasigo Is building a rad sound booth for his church.

Quick Study

Join Date: May 2009

Posts: 120

See profile

Although there may be frustration at times over these issues - Remember one key thing...

...There are so few people who really have their act together on the inside in how they are really able to relate to the opposite sex - that if you really get truly healed up on the inside and get "on a roll" with your ability to connect to the opposite sex...

...Man, there's hardly any competition!!!

Here's something to think about. (no matter how I say this - it's gonna sound bad but for the sake of my point - I'll say it anyways)

Back in my twenties I was unusually good looking, got approached to model by photographers at times, could've bounced a quarter off of any part of my body, etc. But I was a retard and hadn't figured out who I was as a man - and how to really relate to women in the relaxed and enjoyable way that I can now. Now, I am just an average looking guy I suppose, my wife says I'm handsome - and that's all that matters. I don't have a six pack any more - I am probably 25 pounds overweight and my stomach is definitely NOT flat anymore.

Back in my early twenties I was lonely and unsuccessful in relationships - now, I'm married - but besides being married I have plenty of attention from the opposite sex still - and have to diligently ward off temptation. Point is - I was way better looking back in the day - but I was unsuccessful at love and lonely - now I know what I am doing and even though I don't look anything near to what I did back in the day - I find women respect me and are attracted to me.

Though it's absolutely true that people are much more likely to be attracted to certain kinds of attributes visually - what closes the deal - is how you know how to be - how you use what you've got.

Getting into shape is a serious consideration if you are looking for a mate - it certainly doesn't hurt your chances if a guy is not only attracted to you as a great gal - but is also sexually attracted to you as well.

Please don't get mad at me for saying what a guy really thinks girls - I thought that was what this article was all about! - Honest answers about this issue from guys!

In terms of who gals and guys are "looking for" - the following article can help a person realize the benefits of getting in shape - but who someone "finds" is almost always different than what they were looking for.

So take heart, and surrender to love when it finds you!


Here's a Wikipedia article that talks about it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

Determinants of female physical attractiveness

The beauty of Maud Gonne (pictured here ca. 1900) was enough to drive the poet William Butler Yeats half mad.
Features such as a symmetrical face, full lips, and low waist-hip ratio are commonly considered physically attractive when part of a female, because they are thought to indicate physical health and high fertility to a potential mate. The determinants of female physical attractiveness include those aspects that display health and fitness for reproduction and sustenance. These include correlates of fertility such as youth,[14] waist-hip ratio,[15] mid upper arm circumference,[16] breast size,[17] breast symmetry,[18] body mass proportion[19] and facial symmetry.[20][21]

Signals of youth
Because female fecundity typically declines after the late twenties, youth is an important aspect of physical attractiveness[22]. One study across 37 cultures showed men desire, on average, a woman 2.5 years younger than themselves for a wife, with men in Nigeria and Zambia at the far extreme, desiring their wives to be 6.5 to 7.5 years younger. As men age, they also desire a larger age gap from their mates.[14] The reasons for this preference are currently debated.
This preference for youth has also led to a preference of neotenic and youthful-appearing features. Fair hair, perky breasts, [23] full, red lips,[24] clear, smooth skin, clear eyes, lustrous hair, and good muscle tone are all viewed as attractive in women.[14]

Breast size
Full breasts may be attractive to men in Western societies because women with higher breast to under-breast ratios typically have higher levels of the sex hormone, estradiol, which promotes fertility. [25]
Larger breasts also display the aging process more noticably, hence they are an "honest" indicator of long-term fertility.[26]

Proportion of body mass to body structure
Social ideals of body proportions can change. This 1895 advertisement promotes a weight gain product.
The Body Mass Index (BMI) is another important universal determinant to the perception of beauty.[19] The BMI refers to the proportion of the body mass to the body structure. However, the optimal body proportion is interpreted differently in various cultures. The Western ideal considers a slim and slender body mass as optimal while many historic cultures consider an embonpoint or plump body-mass as appealing.[27][28] Men do not appear to have evolved to hold a particular build as more attractive, but rather to be drawn to whichever build associates with social status.[28]

However, it should be noted that, in the United States, women overestimate men's preferences for thinness in a mate. In one study, American women were asked to choose what their ideal build was and what they thought the build most attractive to men was. Women chose slimmer than average figures for both choices, though when American men were independently asked to choose the female build most attractive to them, they (the men) chose figures of average build, indicating that women may be misled as to how thin men prefer women to be.[28]

The attraction for a proportionate body also influences an appeal for erect posture.[29]

Waist-hip ratio
Main article: waist-hip ratio
Notwithstanding wide cultural differences in preferences for female build, scientists have discovered that the waist-hip ratio (WHR) of any build is very strongly correlated to attractiveness across all cultures.[28] Women with a 0.7 WHR (waist circumference that is 70% of the hip circumference) are usually rated as more attractive by men from European cultures. Such diverse beauty icons as Jessica Alba, Marilyn Monroe, Salma Hayek, Sophia Loren, and the Venus de Milo all have ratios around 0.7.[30] In other cultures, preferences vary,[31] ranging from 0.6 in China,[32] to 0.8 or 0.9 in parts of South America and Africa,[33][34][35] and divergent preferences based on ethnicity, rather than nationality, have also been noted.[36][37]

Height
Most males exhibit a preference for females of shorter physical stature than themselves.[38][39] Women .7 to 1.7 standard deviations below the mean in height are the most reproductively successful. One possible explanation is that shorter females may reach sexual maturity earlier than their taller counterparts. An alternative explanation is that since most men demonstrate a preference for women shorter than themselves, being shorter allows a woman access to a larger potential dating pool.

Last edited by learningasigo; July 7th, 2009 at 10:50 pm.
- July 7th, 2009, 10:16 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#83   Reply With Quote
Mooky's Avatar

Mooky Searches for meaning

Newbie

Join Date: Jul 2009

Posts: 20

See profile

I have often wondered this. Does anyone care to comment? I think in the back of my mind that maybe that's why I don't get a lot of responses. I am funny, educated, beautiful, cultured, caring, positive, artistic and independent and I don't enjoy drama. I don't get it.

What's full figured? Ten to twenty pounds is ok, but more than this indicates to me there are serious problems such as diet, routine, laziness, etc. With few exceptions I find heavily overweight women unattractive.

Last edited by Mooky; July 10th, 2009 at 03:32 pm.
- July 10th, 2009, 03:28 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#84   Reply With Quote
Icouldwriteabook's Avatar

Enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2009

Posts: 533

See profile

It's weird how some people just have a beauty and a charm that reaches the little boy or girl inside of you and disarms you and they find a way into you being attracted and excited about them. Some people listen to their heart and some people don't even know what a heart is.

Still tho, Generally people look for what is sexy and attractive to them - so barring the exceptions that the heart can create - fit, toned and well proportioned is almost always attractive to more people than when we allow our bodies to depart from that standard.

A waist smaller than someones chest is a basic standard of attractiveness for men and women. Visible fat and sagginess takes away from a persons attractiveness. Excessive skinniness can be a detriment as well. There are going to be those whose taste fall outside the norm but most people are attracted to at least a fairly standard formula.

Here's a Wikipedia article that talks about it...

Physical attractiveness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Interesting. Well, maybe that is one of the reasons I can still get a date is because I have a small waist even though I have the large hips. (Just wish I was a little more hourglass than pear shaped. LOL!)
- July 10th, 2009, 03:50 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#85   Reply With Quote

ADVERTISEMENT

waltercl's Avatar

waltercl is Feeling good about life ............................

Veteran

Join Date: Nov 2008

Posts: 1,196

See profile

My biggest problem with how this issue is usually discussed is that I feel we ask the wrong questions. Most often the discussion centers around what a person will or will not accept in another person. I believe the discussion should center around what a person will or will not accept for themself. In other words rather than trying to see how much weight someone can get by with the focus should be on what weight is going to be the best for them in view of their health, energy level, and yes attractiveness.

If we are taking care of ourselves to the degree that we should be and practicing good diet and exercise routines then it won't matter what others are willing to accept. Our outward appearance will be reflective of our positive choices.

It has appeared to me that since some time beginning in the 90's there has been this massive PR campaign to get people to accept the idea of being overweight and to try and brand people who don't accept this as judgmental and cruel.

Last edited by waltercl; July 10th, 2009 at 09:46 pm.
- July 10th, 2009, 09:30 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#86   Reply With Quote
DIVINE_DESIGNS7's Avatar

DIVINE_DESIGNS7 is happy.

Newbie

Join Date: Jun 2009

Posts: 31

See profile

outlaw1 wrote :
Rejection is a large part of any man's life. We get used to it; it's like breathing oxygen. Women on the other hand, are the ones doing all the rejecting. When women join online dating-especially E Harmony where most race to close out, often women feel the full brunt of rejection.

That can be difficult for anyone's ego, heart, self-esteem and soul. Men learn to cope with it by equating it to sales-you have to make 100 phone calls for 1 or a few sales. Same thing per dating for us. We ask, ask, ask, ask, ask; well you get the point.

Are BBW women attractive? Yes. Are BBW desireable? Yes. Se xy? Yes. Good in bed? Yes! :P Some are very sensual, romantic and make the best keepers. All humans are not only biased, but reject potential mates for any one personal reason {or a few} out of a 1001 total potential reasons.

Think of it more as a marketing problem. Online dating {and dating in general} is like a job search. Knowing the rules, packaging yourself to what prospective buyers wants and needs and a positive attitude will go far in this game we call online dating.

Remember, if your online dating strategy isn't working, you don't have to quit. Just take a step back and see how perhaps you might be able to emphasize one or a few attributes most men want. Trust me, online dating and dating in general is frustrating for men. And as much, for different reasons, to women.

I wish you the best of luck!
Very well said! Thanks for the positive lift!
- July 11th, 2009, 09:14 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#87   Reply With Quote
DIVINE_DESIGNS7's Avatar

DIVINE_DESIGNS7 is happy.

Newbie

Join Date: Jun 2009

Posts: 31

See profile

winn wrote :
What a bunch of bunk!!! When you fall for someone, it's not size that counts as much as character because, in the longrun, that's what's going to make a relationship work or not. I'm fed up with hearing what men and women want as far as size goes. No matter what part of the body you may be talking about.

I'm no beauty queen but I was married to a man for 23 1/2 years who thought I was perfect for him ande I've dated a man recently who told me I was pretty, not once, not twice but several times over. To the OP, I want you to know that the picture I see on your avatar obviously shows that you are a beautiful woman. I would concentrate on that. Someone is out there who will think the same thing.

Love isn't about outward beauty but it is about what is in the heart. Never forget that.
thanks!
- July 11th, 2009, 09:31 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#88   Reply With Quote
DIVINE_DESIGNS7's Avatar

DIVINE_DESIGNS7 is happy.

Newbie

Join Date: Jun 2009

Posts: 31

See profile

Robecology wrote :
Your pics (and therefore you) are obviously hiding your figure. If you're happy with the full figure, flaunt it, girl! Show some full body shots! That way those who want you like you are will then respond in kind! Fighting a full figure is tough; liquor and tobacco are youth-formed habits that are tough to break, but remember, we've been developing our eating habits since before we could talk and walk!
So if you're not ready to lose weight, or tired of the struggle to trim down and you're truly happy in your figure, just decide it's you, stop hiding it with close up pics and loose dark clothing, be proud of who you are and it'll show.
If you're not satisfied and ready to trim down, then decide to solve the overeating/underworkout ethic in your mind, get busy, and trim down for the last time in your life.
I'm looking for couples who are willing to make a "weight loss bet" with their significant other. If that includes you, leave me a message on my profile, or go to the "A man's point of view" look for the weight loss bet discussion, and leave me a message there.
Hiding ? lol And your bird picture shows your figure n face so well dude.
- July 11th, 2009, 09:41 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#89   Reply With Quote
DIVINE_DESIGNS7's Avatar

DIVINE_DESIGNS7 is happy.

Newbie

Join Date: Jun 2009

Posts: 31

See profile

stevex wrote :
Well said, I am 6'3 and weigh about 260 myself. Now I am not "in-shape" and that isn't a factor for me at all. However, I do prefer women with (and how I hate the phrase) "meat on her bones". I had a new match this weekend for the free communication weekend, we are now communicating on AIM and I am thus far quite fond of her. She happens to be the perfect height/weight ratio that I most prefer.
good luck!
- July 11th, 2009, 09:59 pm
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on Facebook

#90   Reply With Quote

ADVERTISEMENT

Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://advice.eharmony.com/boards/dating-advice/dating/26526-do-men-really-like-full-figured-women.html
Posted By For Type Date
Dating advice message board This thread Refback August 25th, 2009 07:33 am
Dating advice message board This thread Refback July 31st, 2009 10:52 pm
Do men really like full figured women? - Dating & Relationship Discussion Boards – eHarmony Advice This thread Refback July 19th, 2009 04:14 am
Do men really like full figured women? - Page 6 - Dating & Relationship Discussion Boards – eHarmony Advice This thread Refback July 6th, 2009 12:02 pm

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why Successful Women Can't Find a Great Man eharmonyadvice Ask a Dating Expert 573 November 13th, 2009 07:06 pm
so then a women who is not real pretty can never find love???? kat5560 Dating 97 October 16th, 2009 09:49 pm
A Mars Venus Guide: Dating Do's and Don'ts for Men outlaw1 Dating 55 August 18th, 2009 04:16 am

Latest on our Dating Advice Discussion Boards

“Lil lamb, I mentioned God in this topic for a number of reasons. 1. He is the Author of marriage. 2. The OP expressly emphasized God 3. The nature of this group. 4. A few more......... Perhaps ... ” – lil_lamb

Join the “Letter: National migration towards legalization of same-sex marriage” discussion

“Maybe I'm missing something too, but I had closed my match and she finally asked to reopen...but looks like if you've closed somebody before you can't reopen it as a non-paying member. Not that it ... ” – PY_2

Join the “Free Communication Weekend” discussion

“hmm. well, i've got a nasty streak of religiosity. as in, i believe chastity is not only for the unmarried. do i qualify? anyways, i'd say it's hard to talk about "advantages." being religious is, ... ” – lil_lamb

Join the “Gods will and sex vs abstinence for older folks” discussion

“I went on a short ( 4 nights 5 days) cruise to Alaska (we couldn't see Russia though) with someone I was dating/a lover last year.We were able to take our own booze BTW and there were smoking and non ... ” – RoxyRedhead

Join the “Is a Cruise a good Date?” discussion

“Each person has his or her own set of correct behaviors, depending on their age, rearing, socio-economic status, religious inclination, financial ability etc etc etc.We can't and shouldn't attempt to ... ” – RoxyRedhead

Join the “Ethical Considerations In Dating Multiple People” discussion

“This is one of those discussions where it is difficult to have a rational and logical exchange because emotions take over. I think what is being missed the most is that the real problem here is that ... ” – waltercl

Join the “Frustrated & Confused: Is He A Sexual Addict???” discussion

“I see it too, ScottK. I also get a kick out of the fact that you got one star for this thread and I believe it is probably because you dared to mention that you are not liberal. lol!! So much for the ... ” – bigfincat

Join the “Hypocritical Match?” discussion

“Don't worry, you'll get your chance! If you marry a family man and have children with him, by the time you are in your forties, you will have all of the power. The older you get the more power you ... ” – neardc

Join the “Men Have All the Power” discussion



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:02 am.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0