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You remind me a lot of me. I don’t consider them high expectations, neither should you. More importantly. Would you want to be with a guy who lowered his standards for you? I know I wouldn’t. Calmly evaluate who you are, and who you want to be with, and change that as you change and grow, but don’t lower the bar

You shouldn’t settle. I am convinced that I (or you) would be happier if we were doing what we want rather than settling for something we were look warm about. I wouldn’y settle for that in any other aspect of my life, school, work, friends, family, or other more superficial things. Why would I (or you) settle for someone who almost meets our standards. Almost only counts in horseshoes.....I think.

To move on to the rest of your post. You are guilty of the same thing as me. Look up and around once and awhile, smile at someone just to have them smile back. It doesn’t have to be to flirt, but don’t look away if they catch your eye, hold it. Don’t be afraid to flirt a little, talk to strangers. You and me both need more exposure.

Monogamy and intimacy aren’t dead. Trust me, it is out there, waiting for you to participate

And um Czidvar – you started to describe me the way I would describe me...so hey. =)

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- June 15th, 2009, 10:23 pm
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I'll offer you my own philosophy on dating, which may sound a little crazy, but here it goes anyway

What I'd like to know is if I'm doing things wrong in the sense of whom I choose to date. I am picky, and I feel I have a right to be.
You definitely have a right to be picky, but not because you are beautiful and intelligent, but because we all do. We are picking a partner to spend the rest of our lives with, so if we can't be picky here, then I don't know where else we can be.

But of course my choice is not limited to if they're eye candy. I'd like to find a man that thinks, that can challenge my intellect, as well as keep up with my wit. Someone who is articulate and can captivate me, someone who speaks with conviction.
My general view is that life is a neverending pursuit of happiness, with a few things along the way that we have to do to achieve it. So if you truly believe that all those things combined in a guy are going to bring you happiness, then you are definitely not too picky and should continue looking for what you want.

I won't go into too much detail of my life here, but at one stage I found exactly what I was looking for. I could tick all the boxes. We was very good looking, above average IQ, great job, treated me well and we had a lot of fun together. But at the end of the day, there was something missing.

On the other hand, the only guy I was ever truly in love with was blonde (I'm not usually attracted to blonds), very average looking, decent job but nothing too flashy, intelligent but not MENSA level, a great sense of humor, but not a comedian. I could really only tick about 50% (maybe 60%) of my boxes. But when I was with him, I felt "at home". He made me feel like the most precious stone in the world, and he didn't have to buy me a 10 carat diamond ring to prove it. I don't know how to describe it in words, but this is what I'm looking for. I know it exists and I'm very picky.

I want to know if I'm being too picky. Is it possible to find someone attractive on multiple planes? Do I have high expectations which is hindering my search? Should I even be actively searching? Does the saying "You don't find love, love finds you." hold any truth?
My view is if you are looking to tick the boxes, then yes, you are too picky. But if you are looking for something or someone, that you believe will bring you happiness in life, then you are not picky at all. We all deserve to be happy in life, and yes, I believe in actively searching (but this means different things for different people).

Best of luck!
- June 15th, 2009, 10:53 pm
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To the OP:

Perhaps if you listed what your specific standards are in terms of a man's physical standards (height, eye color, etc.), and in terms of a man's finances, you can get help on where to find these men. You have to go where he hangs out.
- June 15th, 2009, 11:16 pm
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I didn't read all the posts before mine, but as someone in your exact same situation -- I find myself a cross roads.

Love is like your career.

Some view it as a job -- as long as it's stable, pays the bills, and is relatively stress-free, it's a great job.

Others view it as a passion -- epic, visceral, and all consuming.

So perhaps if you reflect upon your career, you will figure out your feelings about what you want out of a relationship?
- June 15th, 2009, 11:28 pm
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I appreciate all the great feedback everyone's given me (even the one personally attacking how I'm oh so selfish and self centered.) The whole patience and perseverance seems to be the general consensus.

I think what kind of gets me antsy is that I've had a relationship that was very serious before. I was engaged, and I was making plans for our wedding. Before that relationship, I never even thought about getting married. Now I know the level of commitment I ultimately want from a person. But I know that won't just happen all at once, it will take time. I guess I can casually date and waste time until then
I am assuming that you are between 20 and 21 years old in either your freshmen or sophomore year in college. As such you are most likely surrounded by a male population that is still somewhat in their adolescent stage which translates to hard partying and trying to get as much sex as possible. In most cases these guys are not comtemplating any serious relations until they are finished with college. All that is left of dating population locally is a mixed bag of guys that are looking mainly for a live-in girlfriend, ones that want a FWB package and the rest for a more serious relationship.

Depending on how much education you are seeking, guys will either reject you fast or be somewhat hesitant to get involved. The guys will realize that you are not going to be able to move to be near them nor will you have the time needed to devote to a good relationship due to the time necessary for your studies. If I were in your shoes I would play the field which would allow me to gain more dating experience and hopefully enjoy myself at the same time. Good luck
- June 16th, 2009, 10:16 am
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You know, I laughed right out loud when I read 6dle899's post to you. He's right too. Your original post shows that you are very young and unaware as to how your comments about not being arrogant , being highly intelligent and very good looking come across to some other people. Even saying this kind of self description in this forum can strike people as conceit. That's partly because you have evaluated yourself on stuff that you got from genetics and not from your own accomplishments. Plus the fact that high school is over, and you should be more aware that where you excelled at being intelligent may not count as much now that you are entering a much larger society of adults who have a variety of very appreciated talents and skills.

You also don't know who, in a crowded room, is just as intelligent and who is far more intelligent in the same ways you are. So be careful about that. You are soon going to find out that you will need other people to help you with all areas of life- every job skill, physical and emotional ability, and intelligence that you don't personally have. So realize that your particular intelligence is not all there is, and not all that is valued in the bigger world.

Okay, now back to what I think might be your reason for posting- Do you want to know if you should not cave in and have sex with some guy who thinks you should? Do your female friends chide you and say "...go do it. It is not such a big important deal to wait?" All women and all men have to make this decision, just like you. And they make it every time they date someone, even after a long time marriage is over due to death or divorce. Some people don't mind having sex right away with someone they like. In fact they enjoy it, taking the risks as they come, no big deal. Others are much more likely to wait a long time until they are sure they really like/love this other person. If you look around on these boards, you'll find this range of "when to do it" is very wide. There is nothing wrong with you waiting. After all, if you are in the 1-2% or more who get prego even if practicing safe sex and additional birthcontrol, won't you be happier sharing child visitation with someone you really think is a good person and a good potential parent? Go out, have fun, get some work experience, and learn about how you fit in the world. Don't have sex until you feel it is the right time with the right person.
- June 16th, 2009, 10:38 am
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This sounds harsh, and I don't mean it to be, but I plainly see someone who does not understand their market value, is rife with entitlement and is otherwise failing to let water seeks its own natural level.
- June 16th, 2009, 11:58 am
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I love the feedback I'm getting thus far, very constructive and level headed.

I am a stubborn person naturally, I'm not sure if I'll be willing to compromise. I never want to feel like I'm settling, that just makes me feel like I had no choice in the first place.

And It's not a matter of rejection for my looks or intellect. That rarely happens, I don't initiate direct contact with someone, let alone with intent to flirt. Maybe because I'm that girl that doesn't notice the guys that check me out, so I don't even think anyone is interested. But if the guy's too shy to strike up conversation, then he's probably not my type anyway.

Thinking about it more and more, maybe I could make myself more approachable. I distance myself from people due to past experiences, it's the only way I've been able to survive in this three ring circus called dating.

When I look around locally, the men I meet come pre-jaded, don't believe in the concept of an exclusive relationship, but have no problem trying to get physical. I feel like monogamy and emotional intimacy are dead.
Is distancing yourself also "pre-jaded"? You "don't notice the guys that are checking you out"? How do you know they are all checking you out then? Settling for what? What about some you like, find attractive and intelligent? Would they find you open to them?
- June 16th, 2009, 01:35 pm
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I’ve dated guys in the past that I wasn’t really attracted to because I really liked their personalities, but in the end I regret this. Physical attraction is really important to a relationship, and if you have a nonconventional type that works for you, then I say go for that.

Be aware though that in general, there is an inverse relationship between looks and personality. (Present company excluded OF COURSE! Lol) This means that the better looking the person, the less likely they will have been to have developed a great personality. And vice versa. So if your “nonconventional” type is in fact what most people would consider a super-duper hottie, you might be looking for a mythical creature if you are also expecting great intelligence, humor, wit, etc. Not that they don’t exist however… we all have Coffeegeek here to prove me wrong.

But a couple of years ago, a book came out called The Year of Yes, which was about a woman who for a year went out with anyone who came her way. I didn’t read the book, but remember the reviews and I’m still impressed by the message implicit in the story: that we all should be more open to people, and not so judgmental about others’ looks, jobs, status, etc. You will find amazing people in unexpected places when you open your eyes a little.

So while I started this post saying that I regret not dating more based on physical attraction, I also say that I do believe we can benefit from not being so narrow-minded about what we want in our partners. In the end personality is much more important than looks, and we are all going to lose our looks eventually some day (should we get to live to advanced old age, that is).

I don’t know what “type” it is physically that you are looking for, but I think you should try to expand these parameters, whatever they are. Don’t settle for someone half as intelligent as you however, or with a sense of humor that you don’t get, because this isn’t going to work out in the end. Shyness is a different thing though, and I don't think you should dismiss introverted people quite so quickly. They are often highly intelligent people, with good personalities to boot.
- June 16th, 2009, 02:29 pm
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I don't think that you have room for anyone else in your life at this time, you seem very full of yourself.
You, Yourself and I, where is anyone else going to fit? You would like to be emotionally a 30 years old women that has gained skills, polished and poised. Which is better known as Suave a Faire!

"Effortlessly gracious and tactful in social manner: bland, suave, urbane. smooth out (lit) étendre, défroisser, (fig) aplanir,Faire
and real class? ...suave who capture that secret ..."

You have to be open minded with a lot of flexibility
(that means bending without breaking.) in order to meet your male counter part. Try dating guys in the 30's that will treat you like a women instead of a day dreaming teenager! You have a lot of trial and error ahead of you.
Have fun.

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