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Hi, new here but I do have some insight on the topic. Intelligence is something I have had since I was born. I am in my final year of completing my MACC. Intelligence is nothing more than your ability to take information and turn it into knowledge. Knowledge comes from education. Granted all along I could listen to conversations, derive a hypothesis based on the topics, offer an opinion and usually come off sounding smarter than most. Now I intimidate people. Not sure that is a good thing.

Curious about something, is it more insulting to have someone talk over your head or talk down to you?
- October 15th, 2009, 07:55 pm
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Now I intimidate people. Not sure that is a good thing.
Get a better grade of people, and talk away!

Curious about something, is it more insulting to have someone talk over your head or talk down to you?
Far more insulting to be talked down to.
- October 15th, 2009, 08:04 pm
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Far more insulting to be talked down to.
Thank you! Now spread the word and make my life easier.
- October 15th, 2009, 08:08 pm
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Hi, new here but I do have some insight on the topic. Intelligence is something I have had since I was born. I am in my final year of completing my MACC. Intelligence is nothing more than your ability to take information and turn it into knowledge. Knowledge comes from education. Granted all along I could listen to conversations, derive a hypothesis based on the topics, offer an opinion and usually come off sounding smarter than most. Now I intimidate people. Not sure that is a good thing.

Curious about something, is it more insulting to have someone talk over your head or talk down to you?
I already posted here once but felt I needed to post again. I have lots of education and would I do it again. I cant say yes or no to that. I like to learn but I have so much education it makes me feel different. Not because I am different but because people treat me different when they find out my educational level and what kind of jobs i have had.

When they know me they know I am not into titles or anything like that and honeslty there are experts in every field its just that often times you dont need a formal college education to be an expert. And so I have dated people from all walks of life. I have found many professional men start getting very competitive with me no matter waht i do or how much i keep my mouth shut. Which by the way I aint doing anymore cause that is bs an I am over it!

Then I go out with the blue collars guys that could seem to care less about if I have this education and in fact seem to be proud of me an not competitive so I start thinking thats the ticket. Unfortunatly, that guy usually starts to turn all insecure on me and starts wanting to be with me 24/7 until I just cant take it anymore.

So that has been my life for these 46 years. And now after talking with a friend here that had some luck I think I will just stick to people with graduate degrees. NOT because I can't relate to people without them. But because they CAN'T SEEM TO RELATE TO ME. They can even seem to be friends with me, so far very predictable scenario dating and I cant do it anymore.

So while there me be a great guy out there that is a plumber and would be perfect for me, at this stage of the game I am probably not going to date him. I just cant go through the insecurity stuff. NOT that all plumbers are insecure dont get me wrong. But it seems that even if it starts out good, they eventually start turning insecure on me, I have to start pumping up the ego constantly and I just cannot do it again.

I hate to say that I believe it is because I am a woman and unfortunatly I believe that many men become very uncomfortable dating someone that may be more educated. NOT ALL! But lots. Sad, cause I have never cared.

I like em smart but educated was never that important to me. I have changed my mind and it has nothing to do with how I feel and everything to do with how they appear to feel about me. IT honestly makes me wish sometimes that I never even when to college. That is the sad truth.

But I am where I am now and there are no do overs. This education is part of me and it is not something one can give away, even if I never worked another day in the field, and so....I am going to try and date other men like me because looking back I can see they always treated me like I was just another person which is what I have always wanted.

Funny thing is, I worked at an institution with lots of medical doctors when I was young but swore I would never date one because they were "too stuck up". I realize now that was MY own insecurity. Here I was scientist with a PhD and I was not willing to date any MD and to be honest now that I come to think about it never agree to go out with any other PhD men so guess I probably thought they would be no fun or weird. How ironic, I was discrinating against my own kind. LOL

If you made it this far thanks for letting me get that out there. I dont think I have ever said it all out loud before
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When they know me they know I am not into titles or anything like that and honeslty there are experts in every field its just that often times you dont need a formal college education to be an expert. And so I have dated people from all walks of life. I have found many professional men start getting very competitive with me no matter waht i do or how much i keep my mouth shut. Which by the way I aint doing anymore cause that is bs an I am over it!

Then I go out with the blue collars guys that could seem to care less about if I have this education and in fact seem to be proud of me an not competitive so I start thinking thats the ticket. Unfortunatly, that guy usually starts to turn all insecure on me and starts wanting to be with me 24/7 until I just cant take it anymore.

So that has been my life for these 46 years. And now after talking with a friend here that had some luck I think I will just stick to people with graduate degrees. NOT because I can't relate to people without them. But because they CAN'T SEEM TO RELATE TO ME. They can even seem to be friends with me, so far very predictable scenario dating and I cant do it anymore.

If you made it this far thanks for letting me get that out there. I dont think I have ever said it all out loud before
Is it bad that I understand exactly what you are talking about. On a last date I said please don't hang on my every word, I am not that interesting. I mean I am a trip but just..., well you had to be there. He wanted to go out every day I had free.

I think you are right about the female thing. I think guys are intimidated when they realize you really are an equal. I am a human, I put my pants on one leg at a time. I feel, I bleed, I am human no matter how many times I refer to everyone else as mortals. Perhaps I shouldn't be so snarky.
- October 15th, 2009, 08:37 pm
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I already posted here once but felt I needed to post again. I have lots of education and would I do it again. I cant say yes or no to that. I like to learn but I have so much education it makes me feel different. Not because I am different but because people treat me different when they find out my educational level and what kind of jobs i have had.

When they know me they know I am not into titles or anything like that and honeslty there are experts in every field its just that often times you dont need a formal college education to be an expert. And so I have dated people from all walks of life. I have found many professional men start getting very competitive with me no matter waht i do or how much i keep my mouth shut. Which by the way I aint doing anymore cause that is bs an I am over it!

Then I go out with the blue collars guys that could seem to care less about if I have this education and in fact seem to be proud of me an not competitive so I start thinking thats the ticket. Unfortunatly, that guy usually starts to turn all insecure on me and starts wanting to be with me 24/7 until I just cant take it anymore.

So that has been my life for these 46 years. And now after talking with a friend here that had some luck I think I will just stick to people with graduate degrees. NOT because I can't relate to people without them. But because they CAN'T SEEM TO RELATE TO ME. They can even seem to be friends with me, so far very predictable scenario dating and I cant do it anymore.

So while there me be a great guy out there that is a plumber and would be perfect for me, at this stage of the game I am probably not going to date him. I just cant go through the insecurity stuff. NOT that all plumbers are insecure dont get me wrong. But it seems that even if it starts out good, they eventually start turning insecure on me, I have to start pumping up the ego constantly and I just cannot do it again.

I hate to say that I believe it is because I am a woman and unfortunatly I believe that many men become very uncomfortable dating someone that may be more educated. NOT ALL! But lots. Sad, cause I have never cared.

I like em smart but educated was never that important to me. I have changed my mind and it has nothing to do with how I feel and everything to do with how they appear to feel about me. IT honestly makes me wish sometimes that I never even when to college. That is the sad truth.

But I am where I am now and there are no do overs. This education is part of me and it is not something one can give away, even if I never worked another day in the field, and so....I am going to try and date other men like me because looking back I can see they always treated me like I was just another person which is what I have always wanted.

Funny thing is, I worked at an institution with lots of medical doctors when I was young but swore I would never date one because they were "too stuck up". I realize now that was MY own insecurity. Here I was scientist with a PhD and I was not willing to date any MD and to be honest now that I come to think about it never agree to go out with any other PhD men so guess I probably thought they would be no fun or weird. How ironic, I was discrinating against my own kind. LOL

If you made it this far thanks for letting me get that out there. I dont think I have ever said it all out loud before
I have thought recently that the women that I have met with multiple degrees are very, very independent...actually too much to even allow a partner in. Maybe been doing the same things for so long that they are rather set in their ways. I don't think that I can make a blanket statement based on the last few women that fit that category. I have certainly not been with enough people to really make any accurate assessment.

I do think that you may be mistaking some variables. Maybe not but it seems a reach.

Independence (not security/ insecurity or intelligence/education) seems to be the dealbreaker that you describe. I don't think that the variables in parentheses are directly correlated with formal education.

I don't think that you should change yourself & become less tolerable because of a few experiences.

Some people tend to compete with their partner while some like myself have no need or desire to compete with my SO. Seems that we would be on the same team.
- October 15th, 2009, 08:50 pm
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The only advantage that I found with college had little to do with the education part.

I value my college experience on campus. I do think that my friends that commuted to school missed out on something big.

I do value education as a means to enabling one to think for themselves. Once that threshold is reached then I am good to go.

I am not impressed with someone's educational or occupational background.

I care that they value how they spend their time. That is something that is personal & fulfilling to them. Does nothing to fulfill or impress me. It has nothing to do with me or my happiness.
- October 15th, 2009, 09:04 pm
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As far as education goes, I have never used that as litmus test. Many people have already stated that the level of education does not automatically equate to the level of intelligence. Heck, I'm living proof of that! I didn't feel I was ready for college after HS due to my maturity level (not intelligence) so I joined the Navy to "grow up" before college. Well, I found myself doing a job that I actually loved so I ended up spending 20 years in and retiring. I now work in an engineeing field and I'm considered to have a degree due to actual work experience...furthermore, I have five people working for me and two of them actually have masters degrees. Instead of looking towards the education level; I let the individuals profile and communication speak for their intelligence.

I'm much more wary of income though. I don't need someone to match what I make (though that would be very nice if things worked out ), but I don't want to get stuck being someone's "sugar daddy".

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