beatlejuice72 is offline beatlejuice72 Post #1  May 24,2009, 7:11am

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I am always amazed at how some people will say how they are "tolerant" and "open-minded" yet when someone disagrees with their political views about a specific topic they will start attacking them. You see this on the Internet with the blogs from both liberals and conservatives. I'll be honest. I don't like it. I don't mind spirited debate where people attack the issues, not the people discussing them. But when it starts getting extremely partisan I want to have no part of it.

I've been matched up with liberal women and being a conservative man I've been rejected more than once without even a reason. Does the word "conservative" possibly conjur up a negative image to them? What does that mean? Does it mean that I am a gun-toting, beer-chugging, cigarette-smoking member of the NRA and God-fearing Republican? No. First of all, I don't even own a gun. Second, I don't smoke. And I like my beer, but I am a social drinker.

I don't like it when some conservatives use the word "liberal" as if it is something nasty or evil. I don't agree. And I would date any woman whether she is liberal, conservative, etc. if she seemed like a good person who I thought I would have a good time with on a date. None of us are going to agree on every single thing whether it's politics or tastes. Some people will say that Mickey Mantle is the greatest center fielder of all-time. Others will say Willie Mays. Does that mean that one side is wrong and the other is right? No, it's just people expressing their opinions. And the same thing goes for politics.

Personally, I have went on dates with more women who have described themselves as "liberal" and to tell you the truth I've had more fun with them than "conservative" women. Sometimes opposites attract, no?
 
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I've always thought that Mary Matalin and James Carville must have some good times behind that closed door! ;-)

I'm liberal in my politics and enjoy sharing that with someone. Following national politics is a hobby of mine and I was deeply thrilled to attend Pres. Obama's inauguration this year. Nevertheless, I would not reject someone simply because we disagreed on some issues. Mostly, I want someone who shares my interest, cares about people (is coming at his politics from a concern for others and the wellbeing of our nation and world), and has FUN with it!

 
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beatlejuice72 wrote :
First of all, I don't even own a gun.

There’s your problem, I think.

You should get three or four and see if you have more success. If not, you will at least have a new hobby to occupy your single-ness.
 
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stevex is offline stevex Post #4  May 24,2009, 9:11am
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As a liberal guy, I am on the opposite side of what you face. I do not mind dating a conservative woman, but personally in the end I would much rather be with someone who had similar ideology as me. Just like the discussion of dating people outside of religion, it boils down to how each person is serious. I could date a Christian if she was moderate, and I could probably debate a conservative if she was moderate and ago with the fact that I am very liberal. I would love to have a woman who shared my same ideology only because I enjoy going to rallies and other events; however, just like if I dated a Christian who went to church every Sunday, I wouldn't go and wouldn't expect a conservative girl to go to rallies with me.
 
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Religion and politics are generally entrenched in most people's minds from a very early age. They believe what they raised taught to believe, and I think in many cases they learn along the way, from someone or something, that it is the only way to believe. The early education system's goals are rudimentary and functional...in most cases you don't learn to be open-minded and think analytically until you go to college (not always, but in many cases).

I am a moderate, but even I have encounter. I'm African-American, so most black women I meet expect me to be Democrat. Those particular women had very strong views, and tend to seek someone with the same ideologies. I also date some conservatives. Even though I am a Christian and a veteran, that doesn't mean I'm Republican either. I sometimes catch flak for "not being able to make up my mind" politically. I just look at it as addressing the issues as they come and not having some type of political agenda, believing the way I think is the only way to think.
 
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This is something that bugs me about EH. I am very liberal. (yet I firmly believe every American should own an assault rifle). And I wish that political orientation was in the "29 dimensions" or at least the settings.
And yes, I do usually click the match closed if I see the word conservative. I have on more than one occasion been called a liberal and it was intended to be an insult (it was accompanied by other not nice words).

It depends on how political someone is. I'm probably middle to high in my politcalness (I don't think that is a word). I talk about politics and read about politics daily. If I only thought about it around election time I might have a different view.
And if a guy had moderate conservative listed I might not close him out so quickly.
 
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I think it comes down to a matter of degrees. I'm a conservative Republican, but at the same time I don't identify with people like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. I feel people like that are divisive and don't really contribute to solving problems. I feel the same way about some of the high profile Liberal personalities who use inflammatory and negative rhetoric to bash the other side.

To me there is a difference between someone who is principled in their views and being partisan. A partisan sees things as Us vs. Them and one side is completely right and the other completely evil. The good news is that while these are the types (on both sides) that you'll most often see on TV they represent 15% or less of their respective parties.

Also it is hard to fit most people into a purely conservative or purely liberal label. Even among black Americans where most would self-identify as liberal if you went down a list of issues you'd find that they would be just as diverse in their views as whites. I'm very conservative on social issues, and mostly conservative on issues of national defense and foreign policy, but I'm moderate on a whole host of domestic issues such as economics, healthcare, education, etc.

Also the lines of ideology are a lot more blurred than they used to be. When I became interested in politics in the 80's there were very clear lines between Republican and Democrat. Today that isn't the case. I grew up in a working-class conservative Democrat home where my dad's heros were Harry Truman and JFK. I've often joked to people that as a boy I always thought the word Nixon was a curse word because I never heard the word Nixon unless it was preceded and followed by a word I knew to be bad

I think there are many cases where some differences in ideology and politics wouldn't be a dealbreaker, but of course there are going to be certain issues for each person where they will feel they need someone of similar views. So far I've never ran across a problem with this.
 
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It really bothers me when men are extreme in either direction and try to put me into a box or category they can identify. I'm "other" and "moderate" is a nice word but still not quite my category. I reject being put into a political category at all, to think I am not original enough to come up with a different stance on many different issues? That my heart and mind will always follow a party line neatly? NEVER!!! I'm a rebel...grr!

I'm in Texas now...and I'm trying not to grit my teeth just writing this. I'm from Illinois....where I find most people to be more tolerant of a "other" or "moderate" viewpoint. My last two boyfriends here in Texas are leading me to believe I need to write a book. One was extremley conservative and Republican. The other a self described bleeding heart liberal, from a socialist country.

And I'm the common denominator? What does that say about me?

I think it says I'm highly reasonable and can see past all the B_S people want to project onto the world, others and their dates but this requires some more thought. Get back to you later when hopefully my book deal is a sure bet.

I get energized thinking about politics and talking about them. But a major major pet peeve of mine...is probably talking to people who are just so "sure" of what they believe but really come off as sounding somewhat ridiculous...which most extreme people do, to me.

I've worked in government from local to federal for several years....truth is often somewhere in between, and hardly ever that black and white.

so, I respect and like people with strong opinions, am easily put off by people that talk about things they know nothing about....and this can hurt my dating life if he is not man enough for me to have an argument for his oh so certain belief! lol
 
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I don't see any virtue in being open minded on the serious issues of the day at my age. By 50 I've heard virtually every arguement on both sides of the political fence and from the Christian war rooms.

I also see no virtue in tolerating religious and elitist carp so I would never date someone who claims to be Christian or conservative... I have no problem with republicans if they are moderate in their views.
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this is one of the things that bothers me about "politics" what does "conservative" mean? the fact that to many people the word "Conservative" means "christian" is part of what is wrong with out country today....nobody even knows what they are signing up for.

When talking politics. Conservative should mean "fiscally conservative" it is not a synonym for "elite, fundamental Christian"

This is one of the reasons I shudder when talking politics with dates...the way people define "liberal" or "Conservative" or democrat or republican or whatever.....is so incredibly subjective now. In fact I feel like pulling my hair out right now..
 
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