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tbesq is offline tbesq Post #1  May 15,2009, 7:28pm
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Just thought I'd get some opinions on this. I'll try to lay it out as accurately and vividly as possible....

I was in a jazz bar this evening, and I was introduced to this woman by a friend of mine. Beautiful woman, a little older than I am, single with two children aged 16 and 19. She first asks me if I'm enjoying myself, and I told her that I was. We ask a few introductory questions of each other. Since I'm new to the island, I give her a little background on myself, including a brief summary of my military experience. Next we start talking about politics...without getting into too heavy a conversation on the subject, she tells me that she is very happy with the direction the country is going. Somehow this segues into her schpiel on philosophy. She begins talking about her metaphysical approach to life, recommends a book to me, and tells me about movies that she likes to watch on philosophical subjects. Within minutes she gives me a business card with her name, contact information, and the name of the book she wants me to read. She jokingly says she will check up on me to make sure I read it, and that she would like to discuss it with me, as she has with other people she's mentioned the book to.

Despite the nature of our conversation, it really seemed as if she was flirty with me. The body language was there (always smiling, laughing a lot, playing with her hair, unwavering eye contact, occasional blushing, body turned toward me). She also apologized on occasion because she probably felt like she was talking too much. There was also some occasional body contact, although I'd have to say that it seemed pretty low on the "intentional" scale (occasional grazing of her hand against arm as she was gesticulating while talking). We finished the conversation with a handshake, and then she said that she would go back and rejoin the friend (female) she came with.

So what are your thoughts? Just making good conversation, or was she seeking more? Your thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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VictoriaJ is offline VictoriaJ Post #2  May 15,2009, 7:36pm
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Um, yes, she was interested. If you are interested, go for it!

Actually, maybe get the book first and see what you think of her taste in books.
 
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The giving a name of a book seems a little odd if she was flirting but who knows. Did she write the book?

Sounds like she is a "touchy" person in general with her talking. Did you happen to watch how she interacted with her female friend?
 
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If she wasn't interested in getting to know you better, she wouldn't have given you her contact info. She's interested in at least getting to know you better.
 
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I've never heard of the book, so I want to check that out first. If her philosophy is out in left field, then I wouldn't want to deal with her. She assured me that neither the book nor the philosophy it advances has anything to do with religion (I asked).

She didn't write the book. She mentioned that the book was endorsed by Oprah.
 
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What the heck was the book...lol???? If I have to guess, I'm going to say "A Good Earth" by Eckhart Tolle.

Now, if her next step is to tell you about the seminars/workshops she gives (or has taken) that you simply must take, then she has some ulterior motives. But, on face value it just sounds like the book provided a ready topic for conversation.

Nothing to lose by meeting her again, no?
 
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What the heck was the book...lol???? If I have to guess, I'm going to say "A Good Earth" by Eckhart Tolle.

Now, if her next step is to tell you about the seminars/workshops she gives (or has taken) that you simply must take, then she has some ulterior motives. But, on face value it just sounds like the book provided a ready topic for conversation.

Nothing to lose by meeting her again, no?
Very good neardc...you're right, that is the name of the book. Have you read it? What are your thoughts?
 
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tbesq wrote :
Just thought I'd get some opinions on this. I'll try to lay it out as accurately and vividly as possible....

I was in a jazz bar this evening, and I was introduced to this woman by a friend of mine. Beautiful woman, a little older than I am, single with two children aged 16 and 19. She first asks me if I'm enjoying myself, and I told her that I was. We ask a few introductory questions of each other. Since I'm new to the island, I give her a little background on myself, including a brief summary of my military experience. Next we start talking about politics...without getting into too heavy a conversation on the subject, she tells me that she is very happy with the direction the country is going. Somehow this segues into her schpiel on philosophy. She begins talking about her metaphysical approach to life, recommends a book to me, and tells me about movies that she likes to watch on philosophical subjects. Within minutes she gives me a business card with her name, contact information, and the name of the book she wants me to read. She jokingly says she will check up on me to make sure I read it, and that she would like to discuss it with me, as she has with other people she's mentioned the book to.

Despite the nature of our conversation, it really seemed as if she was flirty with me. The body language was there (always smiling, laughing a lot, playing with her hair, unwavering eye contact, occasional blushing, body turned toward me). She also apologized on occasion because she probably felt like she was talking too much. There was also some occasional body contact, although I'd have to say that it seemed pretty low on the "intentional" scale (occasional grazing of her hand against arm as she was gesticulating while talking). We finished the conversation with a handshake, and then she said that she would go back and rejoin the friend (female) she came with.

So what are your thoughts? Just making good conversation, or was she seeking more? Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Reckon she is definitely interested.
 
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Oh yes, she is interested. If you gave your number, she will call.
 
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Very good neardc...you're right, that is the name of the book. Have you read it? What are your thoughts?
I haven't read it; only about him (as well as some excerpts). As you may or may not know, Oprah has a tendency to fall under the thrall of spiritual guru types (of which he is one). Before him, it was "The Secret" (which is basically a bunch of hooey; even harmful). She is very sincere in her search for spiritual guidance, but I don't find her to be a very critical thinker in this department.

I tend to be quite skeptical of people who generate a lot of followers who see in them the answers to making their lives "right" (and who generate a lot of money for themselves in the process...lol). From what I've seen, his stuff comes across as contorted New Age blather to me. A couple of excerpts from the intro (judge for yourself):

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Is humanity ready for a transformation of consciousness, an inner flowering so radical and profound that compared to it the flowering of plants, no matter how beautiful, is only a pale reflection? Can human beings lose the density of their conditioned mind structures and become like crystals or precious stones, so to speak, transparent to the light of consciousness? Can they defy the gravitational pull of materialism and materiality and rise above identification with form that keeps the ego in place and condemns them to imprisonment within their own personality?
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This book is about you. It will change your state of consciousness or it will be meaningless. It can only awaken those who are ready. Not everyone is ready yet, but many are, and with each person who awakens, the momentum in the collective consciousness grows, and it becomes easier for others. If you don’t know what awakening means, read on. Only by awakening can you know the true meaning of that word. A glimpse is enough to initiate the awakening process, which is irreversible.
I don't personally find that sort of writing appealing...lol. But, it apparently it is for a lot of people who are groping around for some kind of answer to life (his books have been bestsellers -- in no small part thanks to Oprah -- so presumably quite a few people have found him inspiring). I realize that those spiritual quests are meaningful and important for people (and I don't mean to minimize that), but an awful lot of people do seem to be easily taken by the spiritual "flavor of the week."

There is a whole "course" on the book on the Oprah website that you can find under the "Book Club" tab if you want to get an idea of what his followers see in him.

Let us know if you decide to read the book! Whether you find it meaningful or bunk, it can still be an interesting topic for conversation.
 
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