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One custom I never really knew about until very recently is that when wine is ordered, the man is supposed to refill the woman's wine glass as it nears empty. I usually don't drink wine with my food, so I had no idea. But one of my female friends recently told me she didn't accept a second date from him solely for this reason. She said it was primarily because he ordered the wine. I have only had one date in recent memory where we ordered wine, and my date did the refilling. Nothing was said about it.


Your female friend didn't accept a second date because the guy didn't fill her glass when it's near empty??? and that's because he ordered the wine?


Does she have a manual on how to breathe properly so that she wouldn't be offended?


I am always amazed by excuses that some people come up to NOT go on a second date...wow.


Scarlett/Simple mind...this is what I was talking about by being ridiculously high maintenance and go beyond scrutinizing a guy for being 'old fashion' or having manners.


Sorry Tbesq I know you were talking about your female friend, but something about it bugs me..sorry!





Seeing as you are a "wine" guy, I was actually interested to know how prevalent that "manpour" rule is, and whether I am a complete fool for not knowing that the rule existed.
First, I want to say how much I enjoy reading your insightful posts.


Even as you asked for a male response, I felt "obligated" to offer my "limited" female perspective that comes w/ much experience.


For over 2 decades, whenever my wine glass was almost empty, the man (platonic, romantic, LTR) filled my glass. I too thought it was b/c they wanted me to be "tipsy" and more relaxed.


After reading your first post, I reflected upon this. Each of these men were raised by very traditional parents who valued decorum. I too didn't know that it was "CUSTOMary."


I appreciate and have always been intrigued bythis gentlemanly custom and the artand skill that men demonstrate when it comes to the process, the steps of "fine dining."
- April 27th, 2009, 02:32 am
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One custom I never really knew about until very recently is that when wine is ordered, the man is supposed to refill the woman's wine glass as it nears empty. I usually don't drink wine with my food, so I had no idea. But one of my female friends recently told me she didn't accept a second date from him solely for this reason. She said it was primarily because he ordered the wine. I have only had one date in recent memory where we ordered wine, and my date did the refilling. Nothing was said about it.


Your female friend didn't accept a second date because the guy didn't fill her glass when it's near empty??? and that's because he ordered the wine?


Does she have a manual on how to breathe properly so that she wouldn't be offended?


I am always amazed by excuses that some people come up to NOT go on a second date...wow.


Scarlett/Simple mind...this is what I was talking about by being ridiculously high maintenance and go beyond scrutinizing a guy for being 'old fashion' or having manners.


Sorry Tbesq I know you were talking about your female friend, but something about it bugs me..sorry!





Seeing as you are a "wine" guy, I was actually interested to know how prevalent that "manpour" rule is, and whether I am a complete fool for not knowing that the rule existed.


First, I want to say how much I enjoy reading your insightful posts.


Even as you asked for a male response, I felt "obligated" to offer my "limited" female perspective that comes w/ much experience.


For over 2 decades, whenever my wine glass was almost empty, the man (platonic, romantic, LTR) filled my glass. I too thought it was b/c they wanted me to be "tipsy" and more relaxed.


After reading your first post, I reflected upon this. Each of these men were raised by very traditional parents who valued decorum. I too didn't know that it was "CUSTOMary."


I appreciate and have always been intrigued bythis gentlemanly custom and the artand skill that men demonstrate when it comes to the process, the steps of "fine dining."


Thank you pamcam, I am glad that you enjoy reading my posts. And this lesson (men pouring the wine) will not go unlearned...it makes sense really when you think about it. Whether it should be a dealbreaker or not is another thing, but I think it's a nice gesture. I actually have taken a few dining etiquette courses, and I'm sure I've heard our instructors tell us that at one time or another
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None of this "may I hold your hand" nonsense.


For the guys, here's what you do. If you're walking together in a mall or something, you get on the side of her that she's not carrying anything with, and then casually put your hand out and say "I notice you have a hand free."


Then if she grabs it, you're in.
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Nope, Mr._Right. If you touch me without asking me and we've only been on two dates, there will be problems. There. Will. Be. Problemsssss. Having had people reach for something other than my hand, I'm really not accepting of the "reach out and touch" without asking permission first tactic.


One man's nonsense is another man's safety mechanism.
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Nope, Mr._Right. If you touch me without asking me and we've only been on two dates, there will be problems. There. Will. Be. Problemsssss. Having had people reach for something other than my hand, I'm really not accepting of the "reach out and touch" without asking permission first tactic.


One man's nonsense is another man's safety mechanism.


Let me remove the 'd'. One sec. Darn past/present tense.
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Mr_Right wrote :

None of this "may I hold your hand" nonsense.


For the guys, here's what you do. If you're walking together in a mall or something, you get on the side of her that she's not carrying anything with, and then casually put your hand out and say "I notice you have a hand free."


Then if she grabs it, you're in.
'may i hold your hand' and 'i notice you have a hand free',,,both equal nonsese to me,,





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Steve_Cam wrote :

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None of this "may I hold your hand" nonsense.


...casually put your hand out and say "I notice you have a hand free."





'may i hold your hand' and 'i notice you have a hand free',,,both equal nonsese to me,,





-Steve Cam
Okay, Steve_Cam, you're on! What do you prefer to do? ;-)
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i like a Old Fashioned now and again.





- April 27th, 2009, 09:57 am
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Steve_Cam wrote :

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None of this "may I hold your hand" nonsense.


For the guys, here's what you do. If you're walking together in a mall or something, you get on the side of her that she's not carrying anything with, and then casually put your hand out and say "I notice you have a hand free."


Then if she grabs it, you're in.


'may i hold your hand' and 'i notice you have a hand free',,,both equal nonsese to me,,





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Heh, I have a huge success rate with that, plus you can easily tell if she's not that into you if she doesn't take your hand.
- April 27th, 2009, 11:18 am
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sometimes i'll make the move to hold a guy's hand. but i'm one of those feminist types who also wear skirts above the ankle. *shrug


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