In person chemistry is the ONLY thing that counts


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Gr8Guyn2008 is offline Gr8Guyn2008 Post #21  April 10,2009, 7:06pm
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My personal experience, as limited as it is, has been that if you communicate for a bit things go better on the initial meeting than if you meet just after getting to OC. I am not suggesting e-mailing and talking on the phone for months but daily communication for a week of so before meeting seems to work for me.


(Of course I have been getting a lot of matches lately that can determine chemistry in Guided Communication or before.)
 
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Pre-Internet, how did we do this? If you spied someone who peeked your interest, you'd approach that person. ...
and get turned down straight away. Oh yeah, that is the way it works on the internet too.
 
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I agree with you. I liked to meet quickly, and found I got along better with women with the aggression to meet sooner.
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this from a guy that demands a hot woman?





can we get any more shallower? If you have a pic, you've talked on the phone and you've shared emails, you should have a good idea of who the person is.


Just because they don't make you feel all giddy or wet yer panties is no reason to blow them off.


Shallow, shallow, shallow peoples.


This is exactly what I was talking about in my other thread. Good luck finding that "chemistry"....i.e. bangability.





Have you dated anyone you met over the internet? From a pic, emails & phone calls you can have very little idea what a person is like. They're not going to tell you upfront that their children were taken away from them because they were an unfit parent...that they're living off settlements from past relationship and are basically unemployable....or that they are emotionally unstable. No one is going to tell you these kinds of things up front. If anything they'll try to hide things like this. It's only by meeting and spending some time with someone that things like this start to reveal themselves to you.
Yeah I have. I've had people that jump to meet me IMMDIATELY and even though it may have worked out, I freak out because I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM. It's like "take me as I am" with nothing else.


I hate people that want to meet right away. Chemistry is B-S. I want to know all the gory details that you list above.


Do you think if they lie to you in emails and phone calls that they won't do it in person??


The only think you learn in person is if the person is sexually attractive, i.e. if you would bang them or not.





I love a long period of phone calls and emails for online dating. If I have pics and can talk to them over the phone, I can get a really good idea of who they are.


I have no clue what this "chemistry" B-S is about other than it's you being sexually charged by their presence. And personally I'd rather not have that be the deciding factor in whether I pursue the person or not. It's a rather superficial estimation of an individual. And it seems kind of immature to me.


Meeting someone in person rarely changes anything for me. If they are good people, that should show up in phone calls and emails. And pics if necessary.


People are people. And I think a long time with emails/phone actually avoids all the horrible discrimination that occurs with the eyeballs. You can find some great catches without making stupid stereotypes based on their appearances.
 
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I wouldn't mind going to a date ASAP, but my past experience tells me that there aren't many women who are willing to do that.


Still, there is some value to exchanging emails for a bit, as jayjay said, because you can discover those who just aren't right for you before even meeting them.
 
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k374, wrote :

From my experience on EH I can say that the only thing that really counts is the chemistry that you experience when you meet. You can talk online or the phone for days, months, years and hours at a time, it doesn't matter at all...meeting in person you may not click. For this reason it is just not worth wasting time endlessly talking and wasting time on something that may not pan out.


I have chatted with people for over a month before meeting for hours at a time and all it took was 5 minutes to realize we had no chemistry at all. It was a huge waste of time for me andmy time isreally valuable to just spend it on someone who has no interest in me and I am sure their time is valuable as well.


For this reason it is best to very quickly go through the stages of communication and exchange maybe 1-2 emails through OC, perhaps speak once on the phone, determine to meet or not and if so just meet briefly for say a very low profile date, coffee or a drink and then take it from there if there is a mutual connection. All this wasting of time online is rather pointless and meaningless.


A "first date" online is not really a date but a meeting I would say. In real life when you ask someone out and they say yes some basic level of chemistry has already been established.


Just my $0.02, would like to hear other opinions as well.
True. Zeus knows how much time I've spent on Udate, Match.com, MSN, Yahoo and EH. For some reason, some women want to spend eons without ever sending their photograph. And even if they do, meeting them really tells the truth. I've met a lot of nuts on first dates. I no longer waste months emailing a photo less profile.


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I've had a few relationships since my divorce that developed from internet meetings and I understand about value of some (but not endless) email correspondence and maybe a phone call prior to meeting.


Maybe I'm old, but back when I got married in the 80's, I don't remember anyone talking about chemistry. Is it possible that we've all become obsessed with "chemistry?"


Maybe it's just semantics, but what if we simply approached a first meet as an opportunity to connect with someone new, and see if there is enough commonality and mutual interest there to get to know them further. Period.


It seems that we are all placing too much importance on "chemistry" and are in a big a$$ hurry. I think it would be cool if we all put less emphasis on testing the chemistry and instead focussed on just getting out there and sharing the things we love doing. Life's a mystery. Enjoy!



 
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this from a guy that demands a hot woman?





can we get any more shallower? If you have a pic, you've talked on the phone and you've shared emails, you should have a good idea of who the person is.


Just because they don't make you feel all giddy or wet yer panties is no reason to blow them off.


Shallow, shallow, shallow peoples.


This is exactly what I was talking about in my other thread. Good luck finding that "chemistry"....i.e. bangability.





Have you dated anyone you met over the internet? From a pic, emails & phone calls you can have very little idea what a person is like. They're not going to tell you upfront that their children were taken away from them because they were an unfit parent...that they're living off settlements from past relationship and are basically unemployable....or that they are emotionally unstable. No one is going to tell you these kinds of things up front. If anything they'll try to hide things like this. It's only by meeting and spending some time with someone that things like this start to reveal themselves to you.


Yeah I have. I've had people that jump to meet me IMMDIATELY and even though it may have worked out, I freak out because I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM. It's like "take me as I am" with nothing else.


I hate people that want to meet right away. Chemistry is B-S. I want to know all the gory details that you list above.


Do you think if they lie to you in emails and phone calls that they won't do it in person??


The only think you learn in person is if the person is sexually attractive, i.e. if you would bang them or not.





I love a long period of phone calls and emails for online dating. If I have pics and can talk to them over the phone, I can get a really good idea of who they are.


I have no clue what this "chemistry" B-S is about other than it's you being sexually charged by their presence. And personally I'd rather not have that be the deciding factor in whether I pursue the person or not. It's a rather superficial estimation of an individual. And it seems kind of immature to me.


Meeting someone in person rarely changes anything for me. If they are good people, that should show up in phone calls and emails. And pics if necessary.


People are people. And I think a long time with emails/phone actually avoids all the horrible discrimination that occurs with the eyeballs. You can find some great catches without making stupid stereotypes based on their appearances.
Great post...I wholeheartedly agree!


Instant attraction? I don't put much stock in that whole mantra becauseI have always been in relationships where both of us had great initial chemistry.. which fizzled (many times on my part) after a few years.


So..now I'm thinking outside of the box and trying a while new tact. If I have been communicating with a man and there is no initial chemistry, by either of us, and we have agreed to see how things progress...I just go with the flow.


Life is an adventure...and finding THE ONE is the biggest adventure of all. It is/should be a self-reflective process, with a priori pre-conceptions adjusted along the way. I think if we all just relax and stop running around with 'proving lists' and a laundry list of expectations, we will all be much happier in the long run.We may not find the man/woman that completes us..but the joy of meeting new people and self-discovery about who we are/want we wnat, is more than worth the journey!
 
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I am with you OP - I do require a few email exchanges back and forth... these help with the weeding out - the deal breakers are so often revealed in emails. Then a phone conversation - this is required for me, for if I do not like the sound of a person's voice, it does not matter what he looks like or how smart he is, the chemistry will not be there.


I have met three or four eH dates since joining in Jan. and I have to say that I realized within the first five minutes the chemistry was not there for me. So much to the point - that even though these were nice looking men... I had no desire for them to so much as touch my hand.


For the men... they always seem to want the chemistry to be there, but I have found that often in the "debriefing" men tell me that my independence is a big turn off. This part is the lie that is told in the email process, when I spell "me" out to them, they say, "Oh, I love an independent woman." Lies, lies, all lies. Men actually meet me hoping that I will be revealed to them as a mouse in person rather than the lioness I truly am. Go figure.


 
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I've stated this before...and have a hard time why people think it's shallow to want chemistry with someone...AS WELL AS...having an emotional connection....????


To me...these go hand in hand...I am not looking for 'just a friend'...Ihave wonderful friend's whom I love dearly....female/male.....so when I am dating...or in a LTR/married...I want to have the "butterflies" in my stomach and feeling of "Can't wait to kiss them when I see them"...feelings.....and in my previous ltr's...that feeling didn't diminish over time...it only get's better


Now..for me...this isn't within 5 minutes to determine this..but for me...it's really no more than a few dates to know whether the physicaly chemistry is possibly there.....


So, while I enjoy the process of EH (only been on there a few months), I am wanting to meet in person fairly soon so we can see if this is there on both ends....because he could maybe not be feeling any 'chemistry' towards me..and that's ok...because if we are dating, I want the man to want to be 'kissin' on me' as well!!!LOL


I am not saying my way is right/wrong...I am just not used to hearing that people don't want this in their relationship....To me...when married....Sex is just as important as communicating, sharing our faith, values, laughing, working asa team/partner to journey through all the ups/downs in life....


But without chemistry...then someone is just a friend to me...and I am looking forthe balance of the 'physical and emotionalconnection'to share my life with as my SO....
 
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