NightengalesSong is offline NightengalesSong Post #11  March 30,2009, 10:06pm
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I'd more or less decided to forget about dating (and marriage altogether) and have been leaning towards moving on with my life and adopting as a single woman. I don't want to be 70 years old and never have had a family (in some shape or form). So I decided that if I couldn't meet and marry the right man, I'd go ahead and have a family anyway.


The funny thing is, if I DID marry, I'd probably be fairly content without any children at all. But I'm NOT content with the idea of NO family, EVER. But if I can't have that special relationship in my life, I'd like to have a child. So that's what I decided. ButI have a lot of things to do before I can possibly be ready to add a child to my life. (Finishing my degree is one.) So while I do those things which need doing beforeI can adopt, I decided to put myself back in the dating game on the off chance that something might come of it while I work towards other things.


I actually found someone on POF recently that I'm now in an exclusive relationship with. But we're very different and I'm not really sure if I should be dating him or if it can possibly go anywhere. In the meantime though, I'm focused on shcool, my job (I work full-time and go to school part-time) and my finances, getting ready for the day I can adopt.


We'll see where it goes and are taking one day at a time. But my main plan, my Plan A, is to adopt as a single woman. (A man in my life is Plan B, IF he happens to show up!)


I'd dearly love to have that special someone in my life, but deciding to pursue the life I want (with or without a man in my life) released a growing resentment of not getting what I want. I'm busydesigning the life that I really want. The details are sometimes a little sticky, but overall, my life is going in the direction I want it to go. So if I DO happen to meet that right person, it would more or less be the icing on the cake andnot the entire cake.


Maybe you might want to think about doing something similar. I KNOW how frustrating relationship failures can be and I so empathize with your frustration! It's helped me tremendously to decide what I want and pursue it regardless of whether I have a man in my life or not. It doesn't eliminate the sting of a failed relationship or the pain of not having one altogether. But it DOES help lessen it and it helps me to be more content with my life. It also makes it a whole lot easier to decide if a particular man is going to fit in with my plans for my life.


It also helps tremendously to take away the power (which you give them) that the men you date hold to make or wreck your dreams for your life and a family. If you pursue the life you want (includng family), you don't give them so much power over your hopes and dreams. It eases the pressue on you AND the men you date. And it lessens the pain and frustration of the disappointment when it turns out they're NOT the one.


Hope that helps!


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I remember how difficult and disappointing it was when my bf and I broke up a few years ago. We had plans to marry.


Sometime afterwards I realized how cool it was to have fallenfor someone -- and he was a great guy, too. I considered myself lucky to have had that opportunity and it motivated me to keep an open mind that I could find that 'magic' again after my divorce.


Whoknows, your chance for love maybe just around the corner. Good luck!
 
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DDjr,555476 wrote :

4. For matches that you get to Open Communications with are you driving toward a real life meeting? I have seen a lot of people make the mistake of not focusing on "establish a meeting"! Everything before that is NOTHING.
+1000 Very well said.


It seems like most of the women I am meeting on eH these days make this mistake and fall in this trap.
 
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cheyenne99, wrote :

I joined eharmony and met someone I THOUGHT was great. It was the first time I really liked anyone in over 2 years. He turned out to be a jerk who just wanted to play games. I apparently sadi something that he misunderstood and he just stopped talking to me. How do you keep going failure after failure after failure? I'm an only child with no children. My mother is all the family I have. I don't want to end up alone and it looks like that's where I'm headed..
I can relate to you being an only child and fearing you will have nobody when your parents pass away. I fear the same thing. I had the exact same problem when I started online dating.


But you really, really need to control this fear and not bring it to the dating scene. It is causing you to panic and rush, and your matches are probably getting this vibe and getting scared away. And the harder you try and panic, the fewer responses you will get.
 
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There should be absolutely no reason to be alone (or fear being alone), provided that you are doing everything reasonably possible to cultivate strong and long-lasting friendships. And hopefully you have a busy and active life with a vocation and avocation(s) that further fulfills you. If not, then take charge of yourself and make it happen!


I empathize with your aggravation and disappointment over having found what looked like a ripe and tasty apple only to discover it was rotten. It's not easy steeling yourself against potential failures while at the same time trying to maintain a positive attitude when meeting new matches.


As you continue to date, keep your options open and don't over-invest yourself in any one person too early. In other words, be very patient. Your happiness should not rest on whether or not there is significant other in your life; it should be derived in good part from the activities you enjoy pursuing and the time you spend with your friends.


Hang in there, and good luck.
 
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see thats the thing dont try dont sweat it, let love find you. its hard out here but if you give up its like sayin you give up on life.that person is out there somewhere just chill. he or she will appear when u least expect it and when it happens. MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A FRIEND FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
 
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I gave up
U SHOULD NOT GIVE UP ARE U GIVING UP ON LIFE. IF YOU GIVE UP ON LOVE THEN U WILL BE LIFELESS YOUR LOVE IS OUT THERE BUT YOU ARE SENDIN A NEGATIVE VIBE OUT. YOU ARE NOT Alone out there we all want that special someone. hopefully we will find him/her. hope to get a feedback from you
 
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I gave up
U SHOULD NOT GIVE UP ARE U GIVING UP ON LIFE. IF YOU GIVE UP ON LOVE THEN U WILL BE LIFELESS YOUR LOVE IS OUT THERE BUT YOU ARE SENDIN A NEGATIVE VIBE OUT. YOU ARE NOT Alone out there we all want that special someone. hopefully we will find him/her. hope to get a feedback from you
 
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I gave up
U SHOULD NOT GIVE UP ARE U GIVING UP ON LIFE. IF YOU GIVE UP ON LOVE THEN U WILL BE LIFELESS YOUR LOVE IS OUT THERE BUT YOU ARE SENDIN A NEGATIVE VIBE OUT. YOU ARE NOT Alone out there we all want that special someone. hopefully we will find him/her. hope to get a feedback from you
 
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This is just a guess based on a common issue and my interpretation of the very limited information you provided, so if I'm wrong, ignore me (my usual disclaimer).


Are you trying too hard? Let me explain what I mean by that. I know you're upset about this situation right now so perhaps it's not always how you are but if you are taking your dates too seriously you may be running into a roadblock.


The stereotype is "men are afraid of commitment." As with most stereotypes there is a bit of truth hidden in there. It's not so much fear of commitment as fear of responsibility. Again, let me explain, as the terminology here has a lot of connotations that I'm not trying to get into.


When a girl comes on too strong it's a turnoff for guys. When women come on too strong it's usually not sexual, it's relational. It's like when a guy tries to feel you up too fast. Eventually you'll be OK with it (presumably). But early on it's creepy, uncomfortable, and makes you nervous.


He feels the same way when a girl starts indicating too much commitment to him. There's a balance here; flaunting the fact you're dating about 10 other guys at the same time is a big turnoff as well as he's not special, he's just another interviewee. But stay somewhat independent.


By that I don't mean "do your own thing and don't care about him." Again, balance. But going for a girl's night out or shopping with friends (or whatever you happen to enjoy for fun) every once and a while takes some of the pressure off him.


What do I mean by pressure? Girlfriends are great. Heck, they're wonderful. They are also, however, a lot of work. Yikes! He did not just say what I think he said!


Calm down. Keeping a woman happy is hard work (all the guys nod with me and all the girls get offended, whatever). There's a lot of time, effort, and money involved. I'm not saying it's not worth it. It's worth every bit and then some. The expenditure is still there, though.


Guys are fixers. We're problem solvers. It's part of our identities and it's pretty deeply ingrained. It's one of the reasons I'm addicted to these boards; it's a place for me to try and fix problems. We enjoy fixing your car, working on your computer, and otherwise helping you out. It fulfills a primitive need to help people that the majority of people possess at some level. Women have it too, don't get me wrong, but for men it's a different sort of fixing. A simple way (but not 100% accurate) way of thinking about it is that men fix things and women fix people. Take that how you will.


That effort is a responsibility. See, told you that earlier term would be explained! It's a responsibility we take seriously. We want you to be happy, and happy with us. It doesn't hurt when you help us out a little bit, however, by working to make yourself happy a little bit without us!


I sincerely doubt this guy found one thing you said and stopped calling because of it. More likely there was a gradual decline in your relationship and you, well, didn't notice it or ignored it. It happens to both men and women (in fact men are usually the culprits). Things were "going great" and then it just vanished. This is usually the result of one person having a glamorized view of the other person.


By "glamorized" I mean putting someone on a pedestal. To you he's the greatest guy ever. To him, though, he's just...him. He's a normal guy like anyone else. If a girl starts acting like you're the greatest guy ever he's going to wonder what guy you're looking at. He's going to start to wonder if you have an objective opinion or are just creating a built-up image that he's certain he can't live up to.


Nobody wants to be viewed like this (unless they're a narcissist, of course). He knows he can't live up to it and bows out. He'll smile and nod like everything's OK and spend less and less time with you until *poof* you never hear from him again. Sound familiar?


Men do like to be in charge. They like to make decisions and be looked to for advice. They don't, however, like to run other people's lives. It's enough work to run their own! In any relationship there must be a push and pull. If you agree with everything he says and never make any choices it's going to start falling apart. He'll never know if you have your own opinions and his interest will wane. We like strong women. We want to see the girl in our lives as an equal. Women often make the mistake that the one making the "big choices" is the "dominant" one. This isn't really true. People should compliment each other in a relationship. They both should make their own choices and be their own people...together. It's a delicate balance.


And that's what life is all about. Balance. Extremes are rarely, if ever, good. Even things like money or God, which are considered good things to have, are negative if put in the extremes (evil dictators and witch burners come to mind).


I'm not saying that you were being extreme; you didn't say much on your situation so I put in a lot of info hoping that some aspect would resonate with you and fit to your situation. I based it mostly on the sense that your last sentence seemed a bit desperate; desperation will come through to a guy and scare him off. He wants your love for who he really is, not because you're afraid to be alone and he's convenient. That's a harsh way of putting it but it's the truth . That's likely not what's going on in your head. But that's what he's scared of.


I'd suggest taking dating lightly. Have fun . Maybe I say that because I'm young but if you aren't enjoying yourself, frankly, what's the point? Fun is contagious. Enjoy yourself when you're around a guy and he'll enjoy being with you. That bond is stronger than any "romance" depressing Romeo and Juliet crap (everyone seems to forget that they die ). "Romantic comedies" work so well because romance should be fun .


If you aren't laughing, you aren't loving. That's not a quote, I just made it up, but I think it's true.


It's not as simple as seeing the glass as half empty or half full. If the stupid glass is half empty fill the darn thing up and nobody can see it as anything but what it is.


It just requires a bit more effort =).


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