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morning_angel is offline morning_angel Post #41  March 29,2009, 11:41pm
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Merlin,


You are responsible for pulling off this trick, also, and not knowing about sleight-of-eye could be your downfall. Typically when interested in a person we glance at their eyes more aggressively, Might I suggest you never look away, don't even blink, flirters are not intimadated by this and actually enjoy knowing that their mojo is working. Uncomfortableness is a sign of not flirting, o.k. blink now. (is that a pimple?)


I submitted this comment in another thread but I think it's important for the guy to know his part (he can play also, with a minimal investment) so,


Level one flirting:





you make the first move as a transcendental function. Look your best, look at her, smile a lot, don't look away when she stares you down, smile again. If you are looking maniacal, fake, stiff or phony be aware that you might get arrested or beat-up and if she is not a polynomial, she might not compute your intention, be prepared to look somewhere else but if she smiles back you can at least think to yourself "I looked at you first'. Don't wait for her to buy you a drink.




Hi Travelin' Man,


Your level I flirting was great. Could you include more about this? And maybe more advanced levels for those of us who are eager to learn?


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Like the OP, I don't consider myself a flirter. I can tell if a woman is flirting with me though, and it happens depressingly few times.


There is a girl that I'm very attracted to that I'm friends with, but I know better than to make a move--it would end the friendship when really I am in no position to expect anything other than friendship. I took her to dinner several months and on the way back we were joking about a few things. At some point, I patted her on the knee and I thought to myself, "what are you doing...no touching..it'll freak her out!". Several minutes later, without thinking about it, I was touching her again, this time playing with her hair.


The point is..when there is attraction, there is conscious flirting and subconscious flirting. The urge to reach out and touch is pretty strong as I discovered, and can override conscious thought processes.
 
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RebornInFire wrote :
At some point, I patted her on the knee and I thought to myself, "What are you doing?... No touching... It'll freak her out!". Several minutes later, without thinking about it, I was touching her again, this time playing with her hair.
Although touching per seisn't flirting (it's physical escalation) it might be a good thing to do anyway.Physical escalation isan effective way tohelpavoid the friend zone. An approximate rule is do not touch a woman until after she touches you. There are a fewexceptions but it's a good general guidelineto start out with.After you gainexperience and skill,you can then practice integrating physical escalation into your flirting, attraction and seduction routines.


 
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Merlin,


You are responsible for pulling off this trick, also, and not knowing about sleight-of-eye could be your downfall. Typically when interested in a person we glance at their eyes more aggressively, Might I suggest you never look away, don't even blink, flirters are not intimadated by this and actually enjoy knowing that their mojo is working. Uncomfortableness is a sign of not flirting, o.k. blink now. (is that a pimple?)


I submitted this comment in another thread but I think it's important for the guy to know his part (he can play also, with a minimal investment) so,


Level one flirting:





you make the first move as a transcendental function. Look your best, look at her, smile a lot, don't look away when she stares you down, smile again. If you are looking maniacal, fake, stiff or phony be aware that you might get arrested or beat-up and if she is not a polynomial, she might not compute your intention, be prepared to look somewhere else but if she smiles back you can at least think to yourself "I looked at you first'. Don't wait for her to buy you a drink.








Great advice! I have a couple of questions. I met a man I found very attractive in every way in a cooking class. He knew I was flirting with him and he nicely wove a comment into our conversation about him being old. He thought I was too young for him until someone told him I was near his age. Then he began coming around during class, just standing near me, looking at me, and quietly gazing into my eyes without looking away. What was different was that his pupils were dilated, and they would dilate whenever I looked at him. It happened for several days in a row. Does this mean he was attracted to me, or that he's scared of me? Nobody else's pupils were dilated.


Oh, and I'd find myself gazing back into his beautiful, intelligent eyes and time would stop, then I'd suddenly wonder how much time had passed and if I was making a goofy fool of myself, and then I'd look away. Was this the wrong thing to do?
I have been out of action for a few days but am back, hope it's not too late.


Dialation can mean anxiety (plus 140 other things good and bad) but because it is directed at you, guess that it is very intentional. Your comfort level is mostly what is important but knowing when enough is enough is important too. Obsessing is typical when couples are falling and if it is mutual, no damage done.


see my thoughts about turning it up a notch, below.
 
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Merlin,


You are responsible for pulling off this trick, also, and not knowing about sleight-of-eye could be your downfall. Typically when interested in a person we glance at their eyes more aggressively, Might I suggest you never look away, don't even blink, flirters are not intimadated by this and actually enjoy knowing that their mojo is working. Uncomfortableness is a sign of not flirting, o.k. blink now. (is that a pimple?)


I submitted this comment in another thread but I think it's important for the guy to know his part (he can play also, with a minimal investment) so,


Level one flirting:





you make the first move as a transcendental function. Look your best, look at her, smile a lot, don't look away when she stares you down, smile again. If you are looking maniacal, fake, stiff or phony be aware that you might get arrested or beat-up and if she is not a polynomial, she might not compute your intention, be prepared to look somewhere else but if she smiles back you can at least think to yourself "I looked at you first'. Don't wait for her to buy you a drink.








Hi Travelin' Man,


Your level I flirting was great. Could you include more about this? And maybe more advanced levels for those of us who are eager to learn?


Thanks
The next step is two way flirting here's what you can do:





-Flirting back-


from :
Flirting Techniques That You Must Know


1. Smiling. You must smile. You probably think you smile now, but you don't, really. You should practice your smile in the mirror--to be big enough to be noticed, your smile will probably have to be bigger than you are used to.
2. Getting caught looking. Most people look away when the object of their desire looks at them. If you want to let that person know you are interested, when s/he catches you looking, smile, hold eye contact a moment longer, then look away.
3. Waving. A little wave to someone who caught you looking, along with a smile, is a non-intrusive, very flirty way to say "hello."
4. Winking. You can wink at someone from across the room, or wink at someone during a conversation. If she says something funny, or someone else does something silly, you can give a wink as a way of sharing a little moment for just the two of you, as if the two of you are in on some private joke no one else is aware of.
5. Asking "what's the story behind that?" You can ask "what's the story behind that?" about any special or unusual thing your quarry is wearing or carrying. Examples: "that's really neat bracelet you are wearing. What's the story behind that?" or "That's a really great briefcase. What's the story behind that?" Even if there isn't much of one, it's given you some conversation.
6. Holding eye contact. While you are conversing with him/her, you want to be sure to have eye contact at least some of the time. At least once it's a good idea to hold the eye contact a little "too long," just a fraction too long, so there's a brief, more intimate moment between you.
7. Non-intrusive touching. This can be as simple as placing your hand lightly on his/her hand for a moment, or touching her back for a moment as you walk to a table to sit down. Just do this a couple of times on the first flirting interaction--if she/he pulls away, don't do it again.
8. Checking her/him out. Checking out her body must be done properly. The goal is for your new friend to feel complimented that you noticed her/his body, not objectified like some piece of meat. You do this by making eye contact, then quickly, in less than a second, passing your eyes down and then up over her/his body, then back to looking in the eyes. It should happen quickly, and you should be unashamed of taking a glance. Just don't do it too often.
9. Using the "Good-bye compliment." If you are shy, flirting with the "good-bye compliment" may be just the thing you need. On your way out, you simply go up to the woman you want to flirt with, and say something like, "Hi, I have to go now, but before I did, I really wanted to let you know that you have a really great sense of style, and that I noticed it. I wish I had more time to spend with you, but I have to go." Then leave. This allows you to build your confidence in approaching women/men, without having to take the risk of rejection--after all, you have to leave, you couldn't stay even if they wanted you to! (Some also ask for phone numbers at this point.)
10. Stopping while it's still fun. Remember, flirting should be fun, and you should leave the flirting interaction feeling victorious. Most leave their flirting interactions feeling like failures because they don't stop until it stops being fun. If you stop flirting on a high point, while it's still fun, your new friend will feel good when thinking of you, and want to see you again.
 
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Merlin,


You are responsible for pulling off this trick, also, and not knowing about sleight-of-eye could be your downfall. Typically when interested in a person we glance at their eyes more aggressively, Might I suggest you never look away, don't even blink, flirters are not intimadated by this and actually enjoy knowing that their mojo is working. Uncomfortableness is a sign of not flirting, o.k. blink now. (is that a pimple?)


I submitted this comment in another thread but I think it's important for the guy to know his part (he can play also, with a minimal investment) so,


Level one flirting:





you make the first move as a transcendental function. Look your best, look at her, smile a lot, don't look away when she stares you down, smile again. If you are looking maniacal, fake, stiff or phony be aware that you might get arrested or beat-up and if she is not a polynomial, she might not compute your intention, be prepared to look somewhere else but if she smiles back you can at least think to yourself "I looked at you first'. Don't wait for her to buy you a drink.








Hi Travelin' Man,


Your level I flirting was great. Could you include more about this? And maybe more advanced levels for those of us who are eager to learn?


Thanks


The next step is two way flirting here's what you can do:





-Flirting back-


from :


Flirting Techniques That You Must Know


1. Smiling. You must smile. You probably think you smile now, but you don't, really. You should practice your smile in the mirror--to be big enough to be noticed, your smile will probably have to be bigger than you are used to.
2. Getting caught looking. Most people look away when the object of their desire looks at them. If you want to let that person know you are interested, when s/he catches you looking, smile, hold eye contact a moment longer, then look away.
3. Waving. A little wave to someone who caught you looking, along with a smile, is a non-intrusive, very flirty way to say "hello."
4. Winking. You can wink at someone from across the room, or wink at someone during a conversation. If she says something funny, or someone else does something silly, you can give a wink as a way of sharing a little moment for just the two of you, as if the two of you are in on some private joke no one else is aware of.
5. Asking "what's the story behind that?" You can ask "what's the story behind that?" about any special or unusual thing your quarry is wearing or carrying. Examples: "that's really neat bracelet you are wearing. What's the story behind that?" or "That's a really great briefcase. What's the story behind that?" Even if there isn't much of one, it's given you some conversation.
6. Holding eye contact. While you are conversing with him/her, you want to be sure to have eye contact at least some of the time. At least once it's a good idea to hold the eye contact a little "too long," just a fraction too long, so there's a brief, more intimate moment between you.
7. Non-intrusive touching. This can be as simple as placing your hand lightly on his/her hand for a moment, or touching her back for a moment as you walk to a table to sit down. Just do this a couple of times on the first flirting interaction--if she/he pulls away, don't do it again.
8. Checking her/him out. Checking out her body must be done properly. The goal is for your new friend to feel complimented that you noticed her/his body, not objectified like some piece of meat. You do this by making eye contact, then quickly, in less than a second, passing your eyes down and then up over her/his body, then back to looking in the eyes. It should happen quickly, and you should be unashamed of taking a glance. Just don't do it too often.
9. Using the "Good-bye compliment." If you are shy, flirting with the "good-bye compliment" may be just the thing you need. On your way out, you simply go up to the woman you want to flirt with, and say something like, "Hi, I have to go now, but before I did, I really wanted to let you know that you have a really great sense of style, and that I noticed it. I wish I had more time to spend with you, but I have to go." Then leave. This allows you to build your confidence in approaching women/men, without having to take the risk of rejection--after all, you have to leave, you couldn't stay even if they wanted you to! (Some also ask for phone numbers at this point.)
10. Stopping while it's still fun. Remember, flirting should be fun, and you should leave the flirting interaction feeling victorious. Most leave their flirting interactions feeling like failures because they don't stop until it stops being fun. If you stop flirting on a high point, while it's still fun, your new friend will feel good when thinking of you, and want to see you again.
Wow! You're so knowledgable. Did you learn this by trial and error, or did you have a mentor, seriously?


Have you seen the Will Smith movie "Hitch"? Did you find that any ofWill Smith's dating advice was accurate? I couldn't decide whether researching the woman was creepy or flattering. Although his advice was directed to the man, it would be useful to know what his signals might be to me, as a woman.


And another question-Hitch told Albert, (the man he was coaching) that when he walked the woman to her door after the date, the way she would signal that she wanted a kiss was that she would linger and jingle her keys rather than just unlocking the door. Jingling the keys, really??Wouldn't the fact that I had my keys out discourage the man from kissing me? I feel so inept!
 
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