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I feel like I am one of the few classy women left (especially living and working in Manhattan). Women seem to jump into bed with men so quickly these days. What bothers me most about women doing this is that it negatively affects me. When I go out on dates, men expect me to sleep with them on the first date. It's insane. While I don't condone men acting in this way, I do feel that a big part of why they expect it is because women so quickly sleep with men these days. Women need to have more respect for themselves and make men wait. I'm trying to bring sex back to being a sacred act, not so commonplace. By doing so, I think men will gain a new respect for women and will start courting women more. I think it will create a win-win for both women and men alike.
- February 18th, 2009, 10:43 am
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Hi equestrian. i'm also uncomfortable that sex is considered more of a recreational activity than a sacred relationship, and wish it weren't so. i wonder if it's not that many people are giving into what they perceive as prevailing norms - it lends to confusion because they're uncertain within themselves?


i don't know. i'm just glad that my meds quell my sex drive most of the time.
- February 18th, 2009, 10:51 am
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I'll be the first guy to say it on here, you're right.


- February 18th, 2009, 10:54 am
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- February 18th, 2009, 10:56 am
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But seriously, I agree with you. Women need to respect themself more.
- February 18th, 2009, 11:02 am
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I'll be the second guy to say you're right.


The behaviors of both genders are predicated on their past experiences. From a man's perspective, we tend to do what works. The behavior of some men that is considered despicable by mature women is not considered so to many other women, which is why men continue to behave in this manner. Similarly for women, there are some who act like divas because there are too many men who allow them to get away with it.


It's a vicious cycle that needs to be broken.
- February 18th, 2009, 11:03 am
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I am aware of what you are trying to say in your post & agree that people should think before becoming physical in a relationship.


Ido, however, disagree with your comment about how what other women do, negatively affects you - if guys you date are 'expecting' you to do anything, it's the guy who is at fault, not the other women he has dated. I've come across guys like this too, but I just move on quickly, I know it's the guy who is the issue & I don't assume he's a fabulous guy at heartbut is just brainwashed by his previous dates.


I also don't feel that anyone (regardless of gender) should make anyone else "wait" - 2 people should choose tobegin a physical relationship when it feels mutually right for them - this shouldn't be dictated by society's expectations or the moral high ground of others.
- February 18th, 2009, 11:04 am
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My experience has been that most guys I date are ready to get down to business after the 3rd or 4th date. I also feel that this is too soon, but I have gone along with it because I'm curious about them and want some idea of what kind of lover they are before I get more involved. I do it with the expectation that I may never see that person again once they have gotten what they want, but generally I find that they become more attached to me. It would be so refreshing to find a man who wanted to build a solid emotional and intellectual connection first though. I wouldn't sleep with someone on the first date though, ever. Third or fourth date s e x still makes me soundeasy.....but I do the best I can in this dating game. IT'Snot easy.
- February 18th, 2009, 11:05 am
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Red Sox Girl wrote :

I am aware of what you are trying to say in your post & agree that people should think before becoming physical in a relationship.


Ido, however, disagree with your comment about how what other women do, negatively affects you - if guys you date are 'expecting' you to do anything, it's the guy who is at fault, not the other women he has dated. I've come across guys like this too, but I just move on quickly, I know it's the guy who is the issue & I don't assume he's a fabulous guy at heartbut is just brainwashed by his previous dates.


I also don't feel that anyone (regardless of gender) should make anyone else "wait" - 2 people should choose tobegin a physical relationship when it feels mutually right for them - this shouldn't be dictated by society's expectations or the moral high ground of others.
+1 Wonderfully said, RSG
- February 18th, 2009, 11:10 am
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