I’m a Hard-Core Feminist…so What?


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AZTallGuy is offline AZTallGuy Post #71  September 10,2008, 9:31pm

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I’ve been running into a big problem now that I am back on the dating scene—the fact that I identify myself as a feminist. I’m not into man-bashing or preaching but I am a strong activist of the cause. I am a card-carrying member of many women’s rights organizations, I’ve participated in protests and contribute to feminists publications. Being a feminist is who I am and when I tell my dates this I get the following responses:


1) Why do you hate men?


2) You’re not ugly enough to be a feminist (hey, thanks)


3) What happened to you to make you so bitter?


4) Have you ever burned your bra?


I don’t understand why men can’t see that I’m not out to hate them, just date them! Withholding this information seems unreasonable; this is part of who I am.


PS—I was married for 12 years to a MAN.


It sounds like you are bringing some unecessary emotional baggage about being a feminist to your dates. That is fine once you get to know someone, but throwing it out there early in the dating process is going to scare every guy away.


Focus more on getting to know your dates, their character, etc. Stay on the lighter side at first and determine if there is any chemistry or potential before volunteering your feminist views.
Focus on asking your dates other less threatening questions to find out their true character and whether or not they are supportive of your views.
 
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abjon is offline abjon Post #72  September 11,2008, 9:09am

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As to the original question, the sad reality is that the guy who wants to date a feminist is that kind of zitty kid from the fifth grade who sat in the front row and would remind the teacher when she forgot to assign homework. To most other (dare I say "normal'?) guys, feminists are akin to nails on the chalkboard, even in the exceedingly rare instances when they areas much asslightlyattractive...sorry, truth's the truth gang!
I have no difficulty or issues with dating women who think of themselves as feminists. I prefer dating independent adult women. I have no time or interest in having to look after what amounts to a child, a woman who chooses to be dependent on me or other men. I want a partner not a dependency and therefore am pleased to date feminist women, who are not prepared to play the role of second class handmaiden our Judeo Christian socieity has traditionally assigned them





The men I know who are afraid of feminists are usually men not sure of their own manhood. They prefer their women to be docile and properly indoctriated with biblical teachings that teach God prefers women who carry babies, who never question their men and know that they were only created to make supper for their men, to mend their clothes and occasionally, quietly, with little or no passion to lay back and get a little from their men folk.


And, yes, sorry but that is the truth--gang.
 
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And, yes, sorry but that is the truth--gang.
Thanks. I don't know why we even need to have this siteopen toso many people writing in, when we have you to give us the truth. Oh, I know....it's only so we canpose questions foryou to dispense the truth to us regarding. We are truly lucky and grateful. [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-wink.gif[/img]
 
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javajava5,252891 wrote :




". . . women in the public sphere are ridiculed and trivialized in a way men never are." That is so sad.




This is not true. It is clear that the driving force behind Palin being in the position that she is, is that she is a woman. Men never get their spot purely because they are a man and nothing else.
 
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Matt1964,253637 wrote :





As to the original question, the sad reality is that the guy who wants to date a feminist is that kind of zitty kid from the fifth grade who sat in the front row and would remind the teacher when she forgot to assign homework. To most other (dare I say "normal'?) guys, feminists are akin to nails on the chalkboard, even in the exceedingly rare instances when they areas much asslightlyattractive...sorry, truth's the truth gang!


I have no difficulty or issues with dating women who think of themselves as feminists. I prefer dating independent adult women. I have no time or interest in having to look after what amounts to a child, a woman who chooses to be dependent on me or other men. I want a partner not a dependency and therefore am pleased to date feminist women, who are not prepared to play the role of second class handmaiden our Judeo Christian socieity has traditionally assigned them





The men I know who are afraid of feminists are usually men not sure of their own manhood. They prefer their women to be docile and properly indoctriated with biblical teachings that teach God prefers women who carry babies, who never question their men and know that they were only created to make supper for their men, to mend their clothes and occasionally, quietly, with little or no passion to lay back and get a little from their men folk.


And, yes, sorry but that is the truth--gang.
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javajava5,252891 wrote :





". . . women in the public sphere are ridiculed and trivialized in a way men never are." That is so sad.








This is not true. It is clear that the driving force behind Palin being in the position that she is, is that she is a woman. Men never get their spot purely because they are a man and nothing else.
I can believe thatPalin's being a woman was a huge factor in her selection, but at the very least there were additional factors that led to her selection rather than another woman. This certainly isn't the first time that a someone's membershipin an underrepresented group has been a factor in his or her being chosen for a position. I think it's a matter that (at least some) people see value in such a selection, in addition to qualifications. I expect there's an element of this value that will work in Obama's favor as well.
 
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abjon,254118 wrote :

abjon,254075 wrote :


Matt1964,253637 wrote :





As to the original question, the sad reality is that the guy who wants to date a feminist is that kind of zitty kid from the fifth grade who sat in the front row and would remind the teacher when she forgot to assign homework. To most other (dare I say "normal'?) guys, feminists are akin to nails on the chalkboard, even in the exceedingly rare instances when they areas much asslightlyattractive...sorry, truth's the truth gang!


I have no difficulty or issues with dating women who think of themselves as feminists. I prefer dating independent adult women. I have no time or interest in having to look after what amounts to a child, a woman who chooses to be dependent on me or other men. I want a partner not a dependency and therefore am pleased to date feminist women, who are not prepared to play the role of second class handmaiden our Judeo Christian socieity has traditionally assigned them





The men I know who are afraid of feminists are usually men not sure of their own manhood. They prefer their women to be docile and properly indoctriated with biblical teachings that teach God prefers women who carry babies, who never question their men and know that they were only created to make supper for their men, to mend their clothes and occasionally, quietly, with little or no passion to lay back and get a little from their men folk.


And, yes, sorry but that is the truth--gang.


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kibbie,254139 wrote :

abjon,254118 wrote :


abjon,254075 wrote :


Matt1964,253637 wrote :





As to the original question, the sad reality is that the guy who wants to date a feminist is that kind of zitty kid from the fifth grade who sat in the front row and would remind the teacher when she forgot to assign homework. To most other (dare I say "normal'?) guys, feminists are akin to nails on the chalkboard, even in the exceedingly rare instances when they areas much asslightlyattractive...sorry, truth's the truth gang!


I have no difficulty or issues with dating women who think of themselves as feminists. I prefer dating independent adult women. I have no time or interest in having to look after what amounts to a child, a woman who chooses to be dependent on me or other men. I want a partner not a dependency and therefore am pleased to date feminist women, who are not prepared to play the role of second class handmaiden our Judeo Christian socieity has traditionally assigned them





The men I know who are afraid of feminists are usually men not sure of their own manhood. They prefer their women to be docile and properly indoctriated with biblical teachings that teach God prefers women who carry babies, who never question their men and know that they were only created to make supper for their men, to mend their clothes and occasionally, quietly, with little or no passion to lay back and get a little from their men folk.


And, yes, sorry but that is the truth--gang.


Your welcome. Always pleased to offer alternative truths to your favored neo con truths. [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-sealed.gif[/img]


Abjon, you're a man after my own heart!!! [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-wink.gif[/img]
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jayjay,254130 wrote :

LawyerDan,254115 wrote :


javajava5,252891 wrote :





". . . women in the public sphere are ridiculed and trivialized in a way men never are." That is so sad.








This is not true. It is clear that the driving force behind Palin being in the position that she is, is that she is a woman. Men never get their spot purely because they are a man and nothing else.


I can believe thatPalin's being a woman was a huge factor in her selection, but at the very least there were additional factors that led to her selection rather than another woman. This certainly isn't the first time that a someone's membershipin an underrepresented group has been a factor in his or her being chosen for a position. I think it's a matter that (at least some) people see value in such a selection, in addition to qualifications. I expect there's an element of this value that will work in Obama's favor as well.
I agree and that is why one cant cry about how they are treated when they get to where they are solely based on their gender/race etc.
 
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LawyerDan: Your statement: "This is not true. It is clear that the driving force behind Palin being in the position that she is, is that she is a woman. Men never get their spot purely because they are a man and nothing else." ... Is very easy to poke holes in ... Especially since the Democrats nominee is a member of a minority.


I can change the statement to apply to Obama, and it would 'hold as much water' as it does with reference to Palin.


If, on the other hand, Obama had been in the US Senate for 30 years, the comparison would not be valid, but that is not the case.


They are both rookies. One is a woman, one is a man ... One is white, one is black ... You can argue all day/night long which is worse to discriminate for/against and you will likely not come to any agreement.
 
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