There's LOTS of unprovoked cruelty by women


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manalive123 is offline manalive123 Post #1  November 11,2008, 1:42pm
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The gentleman who started the thread about unprovoked cruelty be women is on to something. Because I was unable to post there, may as well get something going here!


It seemed that nobody was supportive of that man. So, I shall be. There is indeed lots of unprovoked cruelty by women. In this culture, women are at liberty to take verbal and even physical swings at men - but the opposite is, of course, not acceptable.


I'm seeing that there's lots of female resentment against both individual men, and men as a group. That's because men are seeing just how terrible and corrupt the family court system is - so they're avoiding marriage and even women like the plague. I'm guessing that is what that gentleman experienced.


Many women will look to pick a fight with a man. Maybe she needs some drama, maybe she just wants to see what the man is about (which is none of her business), maybe she just wants to express her resentment against the nearest available man, etc.


A "bad boy" won't put up with that crap - and these women know it. So, they fawn over the man instead. Go figure.


There are better ways for men than to go to bars and meet obnoxious women. Because eharnony is running a "men are pigs" thread, a man won't get any support from eharmony either. I have some ideas, and would like to share them with men and women with good hearts. Let me know your ideas, also.
 
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I'm not really sure what exactly you're aiming for here, but it will be very interesting to see where this thread goes......
 
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Bitter much?


There's plenty of bad behavior to go around. Threads like this just perpetuate it. I think we've all (men and women) got plenty of stories about specific bad behaviors the other gender is doing.


As for the 'women can take a swing at a man, but the reverse isn't true,' you're free to defend yourself at any time. My personal policy is that I'll never hit a woman first. If she hits me, closed fist, she's just forfeited any right to gentlemanly behavior upon my part.


This has happened in my life exactly twice. Once was when I was about eight. A girl started hitting me with a piece of Hot Wheels track, and when I turned to face her, she said, "You can't hit a girl." She was very wrong and the look of surprise on her face was amazing. I seem to remember her running inside to mommy, screaming that "He hit me!". Mom had been watching and told her that she got what she deserved.


The second time I was in my twenties. A woman I was dating and I got into an argument. At one point, she completely lost it and started hitting me, closed fist, on my face. I had not even remotely threatened anything physical up to that point. After trying to ward off a few blows, she received exactly one punch back, in the same spot. It ended the argument, the fight, and the relationship right there.


I do not tolerate someone deliberately trying to injure me, no matter what their gender. That said, I have never struck a woman first, and never will. A gentleman doesn't do that, and I consider myself a gentleman.


The only time a woman has slapped me (open hand), I richly deserved it, and a slap? Yawn. I'm a man. I can take it.


My point being that you don't have to put up with anything from anyone, even women. You don't have to be the "bad boy", either. Just stand by your values and walk your own path. The right women will find you, and they'll appreciate who and what you are. If you're finding yourself around the type of woman that will treat you with "unprovoked cruelty", then go find different women with whom to spend your time.


They are not all like what you describe here.
 
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I was wondering where this was going as well.


From what I could tell, a lot of the hostility isn't unprovoked, butit seems the transgressions of a few are projected onto the majority of men rather quickly.


Indeed. Let's see where this goes.
 
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manalive123, wrote :

The gentleman who started the thread about unprovoked cruelty be women is on to something. Because I was unable to post there, may as well get something going here!


It seemed that nobody was supportive of that man. So, I shall be. There is indeed lots of unprovoked cruelty by women. In this culture, women are at liberty to take verbal and even physical swings at men - but the opposite is, of course, not acceptable.


I'm seeing that there's lots of female resentment against both individual men, and men as a group. That's because men are seeing just how terrible and corrupt the family court system is - so they're avoiding marriage and even women like the plague. I'm guessing that is what that gentleman experienced.


Many women will look to pick a fight with a man. Maybe she needs some drama, maybe she just wants to see what the man is about (which is none of her business), maybe she just wants to express her resentment against the nearest available man, etc.


A "bad boy" won't put up with that crap - and these women know it. So, they fawn over the man instead. Go figure.


There are better ways for men than to go to bars and meet obnoxious women. Because eharnony is running a "men are pigs" thread, a man won't get any support from eharmony either. I have some ideas, and would like to share them with men and women with good hearts. Let me know your ideas, also.
More likely than not the best thing to do if you feel that way is to not "hang around" these boards.


I come here only rarely, and it's mostly because of certain posts that I leave again for awhile. I have to remind myself that a small number of the population post here, and they aren't necessairly representative of the majority. Then again I have not a single iota of a plan to be involved in a relationship with someone let alone get married again, so to a certain extent it's neither here nor there to me.


I would hate to think that someone, ANYone, is all that reliant on these boards for support, but I suppose it's possible.








 
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Bitter much?


There's plenty of bad behavior to go around. Threads like this just perpetuate it. I think we've all (men and women) got plenty of stories about specific bad behaviors the other gender is doing.


As for the 'women can take a swing at a man, but the reverse isn't true,' you're free to defend yourself at any time. My personal policy is that I'll never hit a woman first. If she hits me, closed fist, she's just forfeited any right to gentlemanly behavior upon my part.


This has happened in my life exactly twice. Once was when I was about eight. A girl started hitting me with a piece of Hot Wheels track, and when I turned to face her, she said, "You can't hit a girl." She was very wrong and the look of surprise on her face was amazing. I seem to remember her running inside to mommy, screaming that "He hit me!". Mom had been watching and told her that she got what she deserved. ;-)


The second time I was in my twenties. A woman I was dating and I got into an argument. At one point, she completely lost it and started hitting me, closed fist, on my face. I had not even remotely threatened anything physical up to that point. After trying to ward off a few blows, she received exactly one punch back, in the same spot. It ended the argument, the fight, and the relationship right there.


I do not tolerate someone deliberately trying to injure me, no matter what their gender.


The only time someone has slapped me (open hand), I richly deserved it, and a slap? Yawn. I'm a man. I can take it.


My point being that you don't have to put up with anything from anyone, even women. You don't have to be the "bad boy", either. Just stand by your values and walk your own path. The right women will find you, and they'll appreciate who and what you are. If you're finding yourself around the type of woman that will treat you with "unprovoked cruelty", then go find different women with whom to spend your time.


They are not all like what you describe here.
I've only ever hit a girl once.


I had a girlfriend slap me in the face and I reacted and slapped her right back. It surprised the hell out of me and the argument, whatever it was, ended with her laughing herself to tears. Apparently, according to her, I looked more surprised by the fact that I slapped her then her slapping me. I didn't find it all that amusing.The relationship lasted for about two years after that, and things never came to blows again.
 
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What really is there to say? That door swings both ways.


Can I tell you stories of abusive men? yes.


Can I joyfully tell you A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER MORE stories about men who were incredible people in general? Men who knew how to fight fair. Men who knew how to have an argument or at least knew when one of us was upset outside of the norm and that it was time to cool off until we could meet again on even terrain?


Have I ever abused a man? no. Would I say that the majority of women will say the same? yes. We can go on and on about how horrible people are but wouldn't it be so much nicer if we spent some time celebrating the amazing wonderful coupling we have experienced? Personally, that's what I would prefer to do.


 
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I don't hit and wouldn't tolerate being hit. I've never felt even remotely threatened by any man physically. Nor have I ever threatened any many physically. You sound bitter against women, and I'm sorry for you, but your bitterness will get you nothing except solitude. If that's what you want, to avoid relationships and women, why are you here? What do you propose to gain by this thread? Support for men as victims of women, all of whom are apparently manipulative, evil liars? I don't get it. I think you're barking up the wrong tree by posting on a dating advice board. Most people here are looking for advice about dating and relationships, not forvalidation of their feelings of bitterness and anger against the opposite sex.
 
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The only time a woman has slapped me (open hand), I richly deserved it, and a slap? Yawn. I'm a man. I can take it.
Ok, GP...spill! I now want to know what you did to deserve the slap!!!! And was the slap from Clock Girl? Inquiring minds want to know...
 
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there is an anger agenda with both men and women. Men will most often see the cruelty coming from women and women will likewise see it coming from men. If you find yourself in the company of cruel women, then you are obviously in the wrong company... leave.


My ex-husband is a very nice man who others perceived to be cruel simply because they were observing our relationship from the outside. You can only know the temperament of a person within your own unique relationship. If it is an unfortunate one you move on. If you allow yourself to be drawn into the drama it is on you. Look for the good ones... they are out there.
 
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