Czidvar is offline Czidvar Post #51  October 25,2008, 7:54pm
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I have two tattoos myself. One of them being of the stupid and visible variety I got when I turned 18. Oddly enough I work for a catholic hospital and they don't make me cover it up and I have been told if I keep up my performance I should expect to be promoted to a senior position early next year. I think that is how things should be. We all make stupid mistakes. Just not all of them are permanently etched onto your body.


I do fear that women generally do not take me seriously because of it. I can fully understand that too. For all they now I got it 3 months ago and I think it is the coolest thing ever. Not so, but they aren't all going to ask. In fact very few are going to. They are just going to make their own assumption and it will probably be that I still want it.


I find that women with tattoo's are no better or worse than those without them. I would never let that get in the way. I am however generally turned off by excessive body piercing. I do not mind lip rings or nose rings, or eyebrow rings, but when you have 3 of each, your chest pierced, your nipples pierced and any other place you could think of piercing, it is a little over the top. Tattoos in that abundance though for some reason do not bother me. Maybe it's because the tattoo's cant maim me...
 
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ResidentWeirdo,309095 wrote :

Scenario Question: You meet a girl,you hit it off. The topic of tattoos never comes up and she has no visible ink.


You date for a couple of months, you really like her, and then finally you decide to sleep together.


She gets naked and you see that OMG, she has a TATTOO!!!!!


Now, what do you do at this point? Say, "Go ahead and put your clothes on honey, I don't like you afterall"? Have relations with her anyway and dump her the next day? I mean either one of those options makes you sound like a shallow person.
Shallow person? Because I have a particular taste for- or against tattoos? Nonsense. I'm allowed my tastes, and if tattoos genuinely turned me off THAT much, I'd probably ask her to put her clothes on and that'd be that.


However, I've actually been in that situation, and I dated the girl for several months. It's not that they're a huge turn-off if they're discrete, but rather that I don't at all find them to be a turn-on.


It's not as black-and-white as you're making out. Don't be so defensive.
 
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GP is spot on. Maybe it's because we're older...don't know. My dad was in the Marines & when we asked him about why he had never gotten one while he was in the service, he always responded that he had never been drunk enough.


That being said, & perhaps in this way it's the same as why won't people date others that are overweight, because they don't appeal to them...not that the person that is overweight is a bad person or whatever, it's just that most people, when looking at the weight or the tatt is basing their decision on how one projects themself, NOT what they really are. But...you'll have to admit, that we (all of us) have a tendency to judge those who are OW or those who have tatts or those who don't fit into the corporate mold or whatever it may be, if it doesn't fit into what our perception of what something should be. Doesn't make it right...it just is.


Also...I'm thinking you've got a great idea about investing in companies whose lasers remove tatts, GP...probably will be doing a brisk business (if it's not already).
 
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Glider_Pilot,309109 wrote :





See my post above. What you show at work is not necessarily what your co-workers might eventually find out about. If it genuinely is in a place where it's only visible to a lover or doctor, you're probably quite "safe".





Hmm...let's see...my coworkers already know that I'm affiliated with a controversial religion, that my wardrobe implies "every day is halloween for me", and that I engage in extremely bizarre bedroom practices (we're all very open at my job.) Seeing my tattoo would hardly surprise them or affect their opinions of me.


Then again, I work in a job where people's lives are on the line and we don't have time to worry about stupid trivial crud.
 
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Everyone has really good points. I just know that it hasn't affected me thus far. I love my tattoo and is has special meaning to me. I work in a very professional environment (in court 2-4 times a week) and it hasn't ever come up, and I doubt it ever does. If it does though, I may be making GP some extra moolah by getting it removed haha.
 
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ResidentWeirdo,309110 wrote :

Not trying to be a brat here, but I still disagree. I've been at my job for 5yrs,and I have gone out with coworkers (including supervisors) NUMEROUS times. They've never seen my tatt, but they've seen me dressed in goth, in miniskirts, in renaissance corsets and other strange attire, etc and I have never ever had it affect my job.
And do you think that your particular career and situation are a good base upon which to generalize to everyone? I'm speaking in more general terms about the corporate world, which is where most people are employed, in one form or another.


As I said, you're in police work, where tattoos and other such affectations are much more accepted. However, that experience is not really applicable to the world at large. You're in a very narrow subset of American culture.
 
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ResidentWeirdo,309101 wrote :




I don't plan on letting "the community" or an employeer for that matter, see my butt crack...
She's not talking about us, is she? LOL
 
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Glider_Pilot,309138 wrote :




As I said, you're in police work, where tattoos and other such affectations are much more accepted. However, that experience is not really applicable to the world at large. You're in a very narrow subset of American culture.
I'll concede that. And I mostly only date within my profession, so perhaps my view is skewed. I just know that it's very, very acceptable at my job. I've had Sgts with full sleeve tattoos, lol.


Overall, I have a somewhat negative opinion of the corporate world in general and prefer to date men who are in law enforcement/corrections/firefighting/emergency services/etc. I simply find them to be more "my kind of people". They seem to have a better grasp on what does and does not really matter. So perhaps I am letting my prejuidice skew my opinions on this subject.
 
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Glider_Pilot,309077 wrote :

ashesbp,309057 wrote :


... There is a difference between getting something stupid when you turn 18 that means absolutely nothing to youand something for spiritual reasons or something that has real meaning to you....


There is to you. But how does that difference manifest to someone who is looking at you from the outside, and has no idea about the 'special significance' of your particular ink?


You won't have a chance to relate the special story of your tattoo to everyone, and when they don't know the reason, they don't care. Ink is ink to everyone but the person wearing it.
I, too, have a tattoo that has special sgnificance to me. I got it in a place that I can hide it, and for people who get to see it, I don't care if they understand the significance. If someone I am dating gets to see the tattoo, and doesn't like it, well, hoo rah for them. No one likes everything about someone, and dismissing someone for choosing to decorate their body permanently with something meaningful, well to me, that makes you shallow. Oh, and fyi, I have a great job, and got it in a discreet place so that it would not hamper my professional life. I love my tattoo, I have had it for 4 years, and have not regretted it.
 
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lacedwithhope,309107 wrote :


Great points, GP! Do you think it's possible that the tattoo trend this time around (as opposed to the 70's) may end up like the single ear-piercing trend for men: becoming more accepted in the corporate world as time goes on? It's speculation and all, but I never would have predicted that it would become somewhat accepted to see a man with a single stud earring moving up the ranks, even in conservative careers. May not have seemed likely 15 years ago. Maybe the cool execs (male or female) of the next decade or two will keep their tattoos?


You know, that's a really good question. The tattoo fad this time got so much wider exposure because of the Internet and the nature of modern media that it may, indeed, 'stick' better than the last one. I guess we'll find out in twenty years or so! :-)


What I am seeing from my perspective in marketing is that the whole tattoo, Harley, "American Rebel" fad has taken a serious nose-dive in the last couple of years. Fora while there, companies you'd never expect to try and reach that market were putting flames on everything and making sure their sales force had an "edgy" feel to it. Then there was all the television hype of the tattoo culture, starting with shows like "Monster Garage," and "American Chopper." Those shows got some serious traction on the ratings, and so advertisers started to flock to the market, and you started getting shows like "Miami Ink" and its spinoffs. Now the fad has started to thin out so far into the mainstream that you have the final phase of any fad in the marketing arena: large-budget production dramas like "Sons of Anarchy." Stuff like that is a pretty sure sign that the core market has already been exhausted and is no longer considered "edgy."


It's been a pretty classic arc for this fad.


You're closer in location to the Hollywood set, who tends to linger on fads more than conservative OC, but we're not seeing the single-earing exec down here much these days. Lots of those earings have come out and we're back into a more conservative phase, especially with the economy doing what it is. Execs are desperately trying to be seen as responsible and conservative - they don't want to be tied to wheeling-dealing get-rich-quick lifestyles in any way, shape, or form.


We'll see.
 
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