Glider_Pilot is offline Glider_Pilot Post #141  October 26,2008, 4:34pm
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abnoba,310030 wrote :

Being a graphic desiger does not in any way I know of make you an expert on whatlooks good with what kind of dress. To drag out the tired old cliche beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think it looks sexy and alluring and many guys have said the same. Mind you their taste is probably a little more contemporary than yours.
> Being a graphic desiger does not in any way I know of make you an expert on whatlooks good with what kind of dress.


When I'm talking about my tastes, it most certainly does. My eyes, I'm the beholder, to paraphrase the aphorism you're using. If you'll actually read my post, Iwas talking about my tastes, not suggesting that they should apply for anyone else. Stop being so defensive.


> Mind you their taste is probably a little more contemporary than yours.


Nice attempt at a shot, little girl. -laughs- Really, I guess I'm all shriveled up and ready to die, and wouldn't know modern style if it was right in front of me. Mind you, up until a year and a half ago I was a manager at a very large company that makes very contemporary sportswear and clothing - some of which you very probably own - but yeah, you're so much more worldly than me with your vast twenty-two years of experience at life. -rolls eyes-


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DennisWisconsin is offline DennisWisconsin Post #142  October 26,2008, 4:35pm
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I have two tattoos. From this you cannot draw any conclusions about my sex life. You cannot draw any conclusions about my educational background. You cannot draw any conclusions about my social status or that of my parents. You cannot know where I work or anything about the costumes required by me at work. All you can conclude is that I have two tattoos and because I am telling you so: I really like them. As to whether a few boys from the sticks don't like it: no problem. I most likely don't like them, either.
I think that society at large is leaning more toward accepting smaller more concealedtattoos...
 
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abnoba,310051 wrote :

IYou cannot know where I work or anything about the costumes required by me at work.
I agree with you 100% Adnoba about drawing conclusions, but thought your Freudian slip was really funny. I know you meant uniform...sorry!
 
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abnoba is offline abnoba Post #144  October 26,2008, 4:36pm

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Tattoos are permanant. If you are going to get one early in life you should really be aware of how it will affect your life.It is difficult for a young person to see past their twenties... at least it was for me. A small tattoo is nothing... but largewr ones are percieved by society as low class.


I could never see permanantly placing a sign on myself. I don't want to be pegged, not even by myself!
Oh, no....I am going to be socially ruined!!! I have two tattoos. It is all over according to the gurus at EHA. Well there goes another night's sleep!!
 
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abnoba,309944 wrote :

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So, in the Corporate world, visible tats are a No No.


It has not been my experience. Mind you I would never work for a place that thought it could tell me what to dress like or whether I could or could not have tatoos. My father is a senior executive in a very large mult national corporation and he has visible tatoos. It has not in any way hindered his climb up the corporate ladder.


But I am sure there are some corporations with issues like tattoos--good places to avoid.
I should have clarified I was talking about the Corporate world here in the conservative Midwest. The East coast tends to be somewhat conservative, too. What I'm talking about is in the legal (attorneys, not law enforcement), financial, and largerconservative retailers. Shook, Hardy & Bacon, H & R Block, and Hallmark Cards....all are based/started up here in KC. Generally, and I do mean generally, aslong as tats are not highly visible, they don't really care.


There's plenty of Corporations,both here and elsewhere, who do have a much looser attitude, thank heavens! Keep in mind, however, even in law enforcement, they are being told what to wear...i.e. uniforms.At leastuntil they are able to start climbing the ranks.
 
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abnoba is offline abnoba Post #146  October 26,2008, 4:45pm

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Glider_Pilot,310058 wrote :

abnoba,310030 wrote :


Being a graphic desiger does not in any way I know of make you an expert on whatlooks good with what kind of dress. To drag out the tired old cliche beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think it looks sexy and alluring and many guys have said the same. Mind you their taste is probably a little more contemporary than yours.


> Being a graphic desiger does not in any way I know of make you an expert on whatlooks good with what kind of dress.


When I'm talking about my tastes, it most certainly does. My eyes, I'm the beholder, to paraphrase the aphorism you're using. If you'll actually read my post, Iwas talking about my tastes, not suggesting that they should apply for anyone else. Stop being so defensive.


> Mind you their taste is probably a little more contemporary than yours.


Nice attempt at a shot, little girl. -laughs- Really, I guess I'm all shriveled up and ready to die, and wouldn't know modern style if it was right in front of me. Mind you, up until a year and a half ago I was a manager at a very large company that makes very contemporary sportswear and clothing - some of which you very probably own - but yeah, you're so much more worldly than me with your vast twenty-two years of experience at life. -rolls eyes-


You don't get to take yourself that seriously until you've earned it. You haven't.
I am pleased, old man, that you don't think your tastes should be taken as telling us anything more important than your taste. Enjoy it. But spare us please the idea that you are in any position to tell us what is or is not fashionable.


Now old man as to your lofty experience based on your long, long years of living. I am sure it makes you an expert on what the matronly woman should dress like this fall. As to personal anecodotal accounts on the net: comeo on glider pilot. Get real.


You may roll your eyes all you want old man. I still say that I have not seen anything in your posts that leads me to think I should take you seriously as an arbiter of good taste.
 
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Linda,310072 wrote :

I should have clarified I was talking about the Corporate world here in the conservative Midwest. The East coast tends to be somewhat conservative, too. What I'm talking about is in the legal (attorneys, not law enforcement), financial, and largerconservative retailers. Shook, Hardy & Bacon, H & R Block, and Hallmark Cards....all are based/started up here in KC. Generally, and I do mean generally, aslong as tats are not highly visible, they don't really care.


There's plenty of Corporations,both here and elsewhere, who do have a much looser attitude, thank heavens! Keep in mind, however, even in law enforcement, they are being told what to wear...i.e. uniforms.At leastuntil they are able to start climbing the ranks.
Yep. While the Santa Monica, Malibu areas, and even some of Hollywood have a little bit looser expectations. But anywhere south, and especially in OC, visible tats are going to hold you back, no matter how idealistic you are about them.


Again, I'm not against people having them. You just have to understand the consequences of your actions. If you have one in a spot that people from work might see, even informally, word will get out and it will have an effect on promotion decisions and the like.


If you're okay with those consequences, have at it. Just be aware of them before you act.
 
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DennisWisconsin,310052 wrote :

Tattoos are permanant. If you are going to get one early in life you should really be aware of how it will affect your life.It is difficult for a young person to see past their twenties... at least it was for me. A small tattoo is nothing... but larger ones are percieved by society as low class.


I could never see permanantly placing a sign on myself. I don't want to be pegged, not even by myself!
They absolutely are permanent, you're right about that. That's why I said earlier that I put a lot of thought and consideration into each of my 5 tattoos. If "society" chooses to perceive me as low class, then that is unfortunate, but honestly it doesn't really affect my life. I have children who love and respect me, I have a great job with a very nice income, I'm educated, I have loads of friends, and I've had many people, both men and women, tell me that they love my tattoos. Some men even find them ridiculously sexy. I guess they're not part of "society." It's such a tragic generalization when someone chooses to speak for many. As for the statistics that you cited, I have only one word - boring.
 
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abnoba,310030 wrote :

Glider_Pilot,309994 wrote :


nebethet,309606 wrote :


... I agree a little bit about dressing up. I've seen girls/ladies dressed up nice but the tatoo seems to clash with the over all picture. I wonder if the guys who dislike them out of a sense of 'call me old fashioned' are also the ones who initiate the conversation on eHa or not.


> ... I agree a little bit about dressing up. I've seen girls/ladies dressed up nice but the tatoo seems to clash with the over all picture....


That's it exactly. A tattoo and a cocktail dress for a night at the theatre? Just doesn't go together for me. But then I'm a graphic designer and highly visual. Little visual dissonances like that grate on my nerves.


> ...I wonder if the guys who dislike them out of a sense of 'call me old fashioned' are also the ones who initiate the conversation on eHa or not.


In my case, yes.


Being a graphic desiger does not in any way I know of make you an expert on whatlooks good with what kind of dress. To drag out the tired old cliche beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think it looks sexy and alluring and many guys have said the same. Mind you their taste is probably a little more contemporary than yours.
What Glider was saying was his his taste on cocktail dresses & visible tattoos. I understand what he means about how they can clash. I've seen the combination at formal parties and it was perceived by most as not tasteful. I'm talking about the large in-your-face tats, not the smaller ones.
 
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I have several tattoos. All the ones on my legs I am proud to say I did myself. I have had a professional job and can easily cover all of my tats. I have to say, I have NEVER met a man that didn't like mine, or didn't like me because of my tats. I like to show some skin every now and then and I am not afraid to show off my tattoos. I don't have any skulls, or fire-breathing dragons, nothing that can be offensive to anyone. They each mean something to me. I think it is an expresssion of myself. I am surprised and even shocked that any man would say they didn't want me because I have tattoos.
 
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