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RRoland wrote :

What do people usually mean when they say for once?


Usually it is a smokescreen. It is a sign of too much protest.[/quote]

Protest by which party?


In this case, what is the smokescreen trying to cover in your opinion?
- October 21st, 2008, 10:09 am
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To the guy(s) complaining about walking on eggshells......I don't know what to say.





Try the truth. I know this is hard when there are a bunch of people who actually think some black junior senator who has virtually no experience is capable of running this country and dealing with major world issues like terrorism, a bad economy, insane gas prices and illegal aliens, but I find it does better than stating you don't know what to say.


I think you invite in what you put out. If you're worried about what people think about you and are "walking on eggshells", it's going to have a negative effect on the situation. And forget about tips for men. If a man has no self confidence, he's beyond help...period

Decades of research have actually shown the opposite is true. There's even a term in computers called "Garbage In, Garbage Out". Studies on dogs have shown that ones that are treated better are friendlier, more full of energy, and more capable of extroversion whereas ones that are treated poorer are timid, afraid and angry -- signs of low self-confidence. You could be the best Texas Hold 'Em player in the world and if your cards suck, you're probably not going to win the tournament. There are hundreds of examples, I could keep going.


Just be yourself........and if your "self" sucks, then start doing some soul searching and try to find out what problems you might have within yourself that manifest themselves in your relationships with women.

I thought you said a person with no self-confidence was "beyond help". Methinks I'm smelling a serious contradiction in your own post. Please lay off the doublespeak, thank you.


For the record -- Who should they beat or tease the confidence out of? Let me know.

But let's assume for one minute that you're actually correct. That the person has to expel personal demons. Suppose someone doesn't know how or know exactly what demons to expel. Or suppose he expels the demons and it does him no good. Then what? You've had someone go through all this trouble for jack. Fine individual you are!


I've been having pretty good experiences on eHarmony....maybe it's because I'm not as negative and full of self-pity as many of the peopleI see on the boards here?

Here. I'll be positive. I'm positive I need to cut this one apart:



Let's play a game. How many people have decided you're not worth the powder to blow to Hell, seriously, and closed you to leave you to a life of solitude? 5? 10? 20? :;plays a violin:: Oooh, man, you're so unloved! I mean that's horrible! Look at the people who have over 100 closes against them, and not doing the vindictive slamming of the door. I even know a guy who has over 500! That's an entire city of people who openly detest him! That has to be a serious ouch to the morale. (and no, that's not me, but it's getting there).

If $1.00 is taken from your bank account and you call the bank and they tell you it's a "service fee", then you're going to shrug it off and move on. If you call up the bank and have $2,000 missing, and find out it's a series of "service fees", you're going to be full-blown double-barrel angry as Hell and do you have a right to be? Yes.
- October 21st, 2008, 08:21 pm
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Diamond730, wrote :


If the girl is driving home alone, ask her to text/call when she gets home so you know she got there safe





Now THAT'S a good tip. And yes, every woman I do that for not only appreciates it, but thinks it's a act of respect, love, and care.


+10, Diamond
I am currently seeing a man that asks me to call when I get home after our date...and I like it...very much!





- October 21st, 2008, 10:53 pm
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Protest by which party?


In this case, what is the smokescreen trying to cover in your opinion?
I have no idea what it is trying to cover, but whatever it is it is not covering it very well.
- October 21st, 2008, 11:02 pm
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RR2 wrote :



Protest by which party?


In this case, what is the smokescreen trying to cover in your opinion?


I have no idea what it is trying to cover, but whatever it is it is not covering it very well.
You did not answer the first question. Why did you bring up a smokescreen if you do not think it is covering it very well? Would it make that a mist screen perhaps?
- October 21st, 2008, 11:48 pm
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RRoland wrote :

Are you guys kidding me? These are adult women, right? When was the last time someone left a date and ran into an axe murderer?
What about car accidents? And personally, I kind of live in the ghetto - I hear a lot of sirens from my room at night. I don't feel unsafe, but I would take it a nice gesture - just to know he is interested in my safety. All kinds of crazy things can happen - they usually don't - but they can.
- October 22nd, 2008, 12:44 am
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Diamond730 wrote :

Ladies post your other lil tips, these boards are so negative sometimes, lets at least be constructive!
It may be that this gets said a lot - but I continue to find need to say it. Talk to my face, not my breasts.
- October 22nd, 2008, 01:01 am
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Hey that is so not true! In a perfect world??? Nothing or noone's perfect - but I ALWAYS tell it as it is at the end of the date - IF i really had a good time! I'm sure lots of other women do the same thing! Having said that - I would never say that I had a good time "just because"!


I'm just saying -- guys are CONSTANTLY on eggshells, especially if they've been rejected in a not nice way in the past. It's happened to me at least 40 times in person. That takes a major toll on confidence. At least from personal experience, I've found that for women, unless they're psycho, dating is often as easy as "63 x 36" whereas for guys who aren't total vindictive son of a you-know-what's, it'd be like being asked to find the cure for cancer with a slide rule and an abacus.


I've seen unattractive women that get five, six, seven numbers in a night. That's leverage if ever I heard it. Guys can go months or years without dates, even if they put their best foot forward, because the women often think they can do better. And it's dually hard if the guy isn't like George freakin' Clooney.



Getting back to the point at hand, in a perfect world, it wouldn't matter if the guy called back right away, but we live in uncertainty the entire time between the end of the date and the next time we can call. We don't even know, unless something major league off kilter happens (i.e. sex on the first date) that the girl is even into us or not and having to wait because we don't want to seem obsessed or psycho is bloody hell depressing.
If you have been rejected that many times in person - maybe you should start asking yourself why. Here's a heads up - you come off like a sexist, bigoted jerk - ususally a turn off. I would really advise you to seek counseling.
- October 22nd, 2008, 01:12 am
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If you have been rejected that many times in person - maybe you should start asking yourself why. Here's a heads up - you come off like a sexist, bigoted jerk - ususally a turn off. I would really advise you to seek counseling.


I guess your screen name doesn't seem to fit too well. The correct spelling is "usually", and not only that, but bigoted generally implies some sort of racist attitude. If you're implying bigoted against women, you already covered that by saying "sexist", but if not, I didn't see any negative racial statements in any post I have put on here or that you have quoted. Now if you had said I sounded like a sexist, arrogant jerk or a sexist, hotheaded jerk, you'd have had some merit to that argument.

What I am going by is the way men have been treated since the advent of political correctness circa 1992 -- you see it in music videos, especially ones featuring women as singers, in the news media and on TV in general -- A man is considered a sexist pig for looking at a woman's butt as she walks by yet you can't censor the Diet Coke commercial that came out where some nameless dude takes off his shirt and five fully clothed girls ogle him.


There are some exceptions but if you take a look at the number of closed matches by people on this board, you'll see a lot of guys having 3 and 4 digits of people who have closed them, while the women seem to have maybe 10 or 15. I don't mean TOTAL matches closed, I mean the number that were closed by the other person.


One lady who frequented the board told me she shut down 428 men and hasn't even been closed 10 times. Most of them who do have more than 100 admit they did most of the closing.

I have the exact opposite picture: I have had 238 closes and only closed 14. If that's not a measure of how much control a gender has, I don't know what is.


So do me a favor: Look in the camera over there and tell everyone in America that you are not smarter than a 5th Grader.


It may be that this gets said a lot - but I continue to find need to say it. Talk to my face, not my breasts.


Maybe they're just focusing and trying to drown out you chewing them out for something else they didn't do right by your standards.
- October 22nd, 2008, 01:32 am
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ManekiNeko wrote :




To the guy(s) complaining about walking on eggshells......I don't know what to say.





Try the truth. I know this is hard when there are a bunch of people who actually think some black junior senator who has virtually no experience is capable of running this country and dealing with major world issues like terrorism, a bad economy, insane gas prices and illegal aliens, but I find it does better than stating you don't know what to say.


I think you invite in what you put out. If you're worried about what people think about you and are "walking on eggshells", it's going to have a negative effect on the situation. And forget about tips for men. If a man has no self confidence, he's beyond help...period

Decades of research have actually shown the opposite is true. There's even a term in computers called "Garbage In, Garbage Out". Studies on dogs have shown that ones that are treated better are friendlier, more full of energy, and more capable of extroversion whereas ones that are treated poorer are timid, afraid and angry -- signs of low self-confidence. You could be the best Texas Hold 'Em player in the world and if your cards suck, you're probably not going to win the tournament. There are hundreds of examples, I could keep going.


Just be yourself........and if your "self" sucks, then start doing some soul searching and try to find out what problems you might have within yourself that manifest themselves in your relationships with women.

I thought you said a person with no self-confidence was "beyond help". Methinks I'm smelling a serious contradiction in your own post. Please lay off the doublespeak, thank you.


For the record -- Who should they beat or tease the confidence out of? Let me know.

But let's assume for one minute that you're actually correct. That the person has to expel personal demons. Suppose someone doesn't know how or know exactly what demons to expel. Or suppose he expels the demons and it does him no good. Then what? You've had someone go through all this trouble for jack. Fine individual you are!


I've been having pretty good experiences on eHarmony....maybe it's because I'm not as negative and full of self-pity as many of the peopleI see on the boards here?

Here. I'll be positive. I'm positive I need to cut this one apart:



Let's play a game. How many people have decided you're not worth the powder to blow to Hell, seriously, and closed you to leave you to a life of solitude? 5? 10? 20? :;plays a violin:: Oooh, man, you're so unloved! I mean that's horrible! Look at the people who have over 100 closes against them, and not doing the vindictive slamming of the door. I even know a guy who has over 500! That's an entire city of people who openly detest him! That has to be a serious ouch to the morale. (and no, that's not me, but it's getting there).

If $1.00 is taken from your bank account and you call the bank and they tell you it's a "service fee", then you're going to shrug it off and move on. If you call up the bank and have $2,000 missing, and find out it's a series of "service fees", you're going to be full-blown double-barrel angry as Hell and do you have a right to be? Yes.


Fine, I understand that many people are willing to let outside influences direct their lives. I have decided to take another path in my way of thinking and in my way of living. I didn't mean to come off as uncaring, quite to the contrary. It upsets me seeing people get so upset about getting a lot of closes. But it's up to the individual how they choose to see things, and I respect that.
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