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This is a new thread that is a continuation from my "Should I bother!?" thread. However, while my concern still stands that the guy is only 4 months separated from his wife I have other little concerns that have been bothering me. Concern #1: I'm falling for him and it scares me. We have had two dates and will have our third date this Friday...so that will be 3 dates in a week and a half. My last relationship ended with someone going from "you are the first person I could see marrying" to basically poofing on me. So my confidence is still a bit shattered.... #2 on the same note as #1 I am super nervous around him and I'm never nervous. Not sure how to feel completely comfy with him sans at least a drink or two. And I don't drink that often....I just have this fear that being myself will drive him away...AGAIN, all from what I recently went through with being poofed on. #3. We got pretty physical fast...we did not have sex. He was very flirty with me and confident and kissed me a lot throughout the night. He was all smiles and a lot of "when are you moving to my area" etc. But at the end of night, both of us tired and and a little typsy he couldn't quite stay "aroused" (not that we were going to have sex, but other attempts did not "sustain" him.) This immediately changed his mood (I think he was embarrased). And with me already feeling my own lack of confidence around him I opted to leave when he invited me to stay the night. Now I have had the opinion of two men who told me that when I left after he couldn't "preform" as it were was probably more of a knock to his ego. This idea was kind of confirmed in the fact that he seemed even more saddened as he walked me to my car. I thought about him the entire next day...thinking "oh god, I'm really falling for this guy"....I didn't hear from him until I texted him asking him out again and he responded an hour later confirming he would also like to go out again.
I guess my concerns center around my lack of feeling confident and I'm not sure what to do about it...I still feel so damaged from what happened to me and I wasn't expecting it. I generally charm my way through dates with ease....now its a bit of a struggle!
Also wondering if I added insult to injury by leaving kind of abruptly.
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I think you have a sexual communication issue here.

You spent all day thinking about him and probably wanting to communicate to him that the mind blowing sex that you hoped you'd both would enjoy and didn't isn't something you want him to feel bad about?

You both feel lacking in confidence some of which is serious baggage on your part "you are the first person I could see marrying" to basically poofing on me" - sorry to be harsh but you need to get a grip and get over it.

I think the sex probably failed due to it being too soon and lack of foreplay.

From my experience, I've found the best way to break the ice is by texting. It's easy to flirt by text and you end up making each other smile, it improves confidence and maintains interest. Put some humour in it as well.
 
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I doubt that he is ready for a relationship in four months (if that is not what you are after ignore it). And I have doubts that you are ready for a relationship so soon. And if you just want to date and you know, have fun, why be nervous ? Just have fun ...

I think you should just take a little bit of time off, you asked for our opinion, don't hit me
 
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I think you have a sexual communication issue here.

You spent all day thinking about him and probably wanting to communicate to him that the mind blowing sex that you hoped you'd both would enjoy and didn't isn't something you want him to feel bad about?

You both feel lacking in confidence some of which is serious baggage on your part "you are the first person I could see marrying" to basically poofing on me" - sorry to be harsh but you need to get a grip and get over it.

I think the sex probably failed due to it being too soon and lack of foreplay.

From my experience, I've found the best way to break the ice is by texting. It's easy to flirt by text and you end up making each other smile, it improves confidence and maintains interest. Put some humour in it as well.
Ok, just "getting over it" is not actual advice. And I am over it to the extent that I have absolutely NO feelings for the last guy I dated. However, I didn't expect it to effect the way I interact again with the first person I've dated that I feel something for. I'm not sure anything can change that except just working through it.
As far as your interpretation as to why the intimacy portion didn't result in the way I wanted I completely agree. However, he isn't much of a texter. And yes I expect everyone will be all over this one but I suspect he isn't much of a texter because I assume he still shares a phone bill/contract with his ex and I assume the bill still goes to her house. He's the one who moved out. These are all things I get though, I don't expect his life to be different than it is. I don't expect him to be ready to jump into something serious. I only have a hard time denying the opportunity, even if it is just temporary, to spend time with someone I am attracted to....it is so rare that I meet anyone who even makes me the least bit giddy.
 
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Goomph wrote :
I doubt that he is ready for a relationship in four months (if that is not what you are after ignore it). And I have doubts that you are ready for a relationship so soon. And if you just want to date and you know, have fun, why be nervous ? Just have fun ...

I think you should just take a little bit of time off, you asked for our opinion, don't hit me
Don't worry I am really bad at hitting people through a screen. But really, I get your concern about me not being ready. I politely disagree, I harbor absolutely no feelings for the last guy I dated...the thought of him actually annoys me.
I talked to my sister and a friend about it...they both said they were visibally nervous around the people they are currently dating during the first few encounters...maybe it is a sign that I'm actually into him with some lack of confidence due to the last guy as well.
 
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....it is so rare that I meet anyone who even makes me the least bit giddy.
make sure you tell him this bit!
 
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EA,

I agree with the above posters that this man likely has a lot to process if he's only been separated for 4 months, and is not ready for a relationship. If you can guard your heart and have a fling, great, but the chances of this succeeding long term are slim.

But let's get to the heart of your question: I would imagine (and I'm imagining, because nothing like that has ever happened to me) that this man is very self-conscious about his "failure to launch" and that your abrupt exit probably compounded the issue. I would imagine that the moments after things "go south" are very awkward for both the man and the woman, especially if its their first time together, and both parties become very sensitive -- the man because he couldn't perform his "manly" duties, and the woman because she's wondering whether her technique or attractiveness were deficient. And I would imagine that any response from either party that is not understanding and supportive would add fuel to the fires of embarassment. But what do I know -- I'm just imagining...

The fact that you reached out and he responded is a good sign. If you go out again, try to limit the alcohol intake, and try to get to the bedroom earlier in the evening. Good luck!
 
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Bring a deck of cards to your next date. If the launch is delayed at least you can make each other laugh playing nekkid Battle.

I agree that this doesn't seem particularly well-suited to a long-term situation and that you should guard your heart a bit, but taking it back to the level of just two people relating to one another (removing the pressure on your side that it has to be something because you need it to be and removing the pressure from him to be sexually responsive/competent until his mind and body are ready) might relieve some of the nerves on both sides.

And nekkid Battle will do that. As will nekkid Twister, nekkid charades, and nekkid Pin The Tail On The Donkey. If you're not ready for nekkid, I recommend costumes. Clowns, zombies, Sponge Bob, Teletubbies - anything to bring a bit of shared laughter and lightheartedness into it.

You might be over the last guy as in "I don't care about him" but it takes a bit longer and a bit more effort to be over the sting of things and what that does to self-confidence. Take the spotlight away from sex and just let things progress (or not) as they will.

Don't forget to breathe (it helps in nekkid Twister, especially )
 
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Concern #1: I'm falling for him and it scares me. We have had two dates and will have our third date this Friday...so that will be 3 dates in a week and a half. My last relationship ended with someone going from "you are the first person I could see marrying" to basically poofing on me. So my confidence is still a bit shattered....

You could choose to back down the pace of meeting, but I'm reluctant to suggest you should.

I believe, that given two people who are capable of developing a healthy relationship, they probably will if given time.

I think planning more leisurely meetings, and beginning to introduce some generic long term plans, is the right way to feel through this.


#2 on the same note as #1 I am super nervous around him and I'm never nervous. Not sure how to feel completely comfy with him sans at least a drink or two. And I don't drink that often....I just have this fear that being myself will drive him away...AGAIN, all from what I recently went through with being poofed on.

I think the odds are good he is oblivious to your nervousness.

Don't hit the bottle too hard, but do propose meetings that make you comfortable.


#3. We got pretty physical fast...we did not have sex. He was very flirty with me and confident and kissed me a lot throughout the night. He was all smiles and a lot of "when are you moving to my area" etc. But at the end of night, both of us tired and and a little typsy he couldn't quite stay "aroused" (not that we were going to have sex, but other attempts did not "sustain" him.) This immediately changed his mood (I think he was embarrased). And with me already feeling my own lack of confidence around him I opted to leave when he invited me to stay the night.

Ouch. I consider walking out to be a mistake.

Now, when next you make an attempt, he will know that if he isn't good enough you will be gone.

I would plan a meeting where spending the night is part of the plan (e.g., necessitated by the logistics, if not expressly designed.)

For me, this could well be the decision that led me to write off a woman, once I went to bed alone.


Now I have had the opinion of two men who told me that when I left after he couldn't "preform" as it were was probably more of a knock to his ego. This idea was kind of confirmed in the fact that he seemed even more saddened as he walked me to my car. I thought about him the entire next day...thinking "oh god, I'm really falling for this guy"....I didn't hear from him until I texted him asking him out again and he responded an hour later confirming he would also like to go out again.
I guess my concerns center around my lack of feeling confident and I'm not sure what to do about it...I still feel so damaged from what happened to me and I wasn't expecting it. I generally charm my way through dates with ease....now its a bit of a struggle!
Also wondering if I added insult to injury by leaving kind of abruptly.

I don't like giving up from one disappointing attempt at intimacy (barring an attitude problem), so I'd prefer at least one more attempt, and without a deadline.

I do think your leaving was an "insult" - but I also think that your next plan can push this right out of his mind.
 
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