crosswordcook is offline crosswordcook Post #1  January 28,2012, 7:57am
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I've become very demoralized about never being asked for a second date. All of the men I have first dates with are ones who initiated online contact with me, so presumably they had some interest or attraction to my online self. (Not that I go on that many first dates, frankly.) And online self is very much a representation of my in-person self -- I don't put on a different persona in my profile. Yet, I have not been asked on a second date in over a year, even after dates that I thought went well. I haven't even had to politely turn anyone down for a second date because I wasn't interested. I'm starting to believe that there's something terribly wrong with me or that I make some terrible mistake on every date. What might be the problem? I feel like just giving up.
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Well....meeting people from online is a huge numbers game. Think of it this way. In real life, if you go to a party with a 100 single guys in it, you'll rapidly eliminate all but maybe two or three where the attraction is mutual and you'll talk and decide to follow up that meet with a date. When you go out with all three, you'll then narrow it down to one you really click with the most and start dating him more. So, out of a 100 single guys you might go out with three at the most and end up dating one. Online, you actually have to go meet every single one of those 100 guys until you meet that one. It may happen that you are really really lucky and it's guy #2 or it might not happen until you go out with guy #100.

So, given that perspective, it doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with you and anything that you are doing. Could just be a numbers thing.

So one way to increase your numbers is for you to start contacting guys who interest you online. This way you are not just passively waiting for some guy to e-mail you. Another thing is that if you liked him and had a great date, be sure that you give him a warm hug when parting and indicate that you'd like to see him again. In short, show interest and encourage him to continue with you. If you suspect that you might come across as too reserved on the date and too hard to read, then send him a nice brief text the next day to say hello. Again, show interest, so he knows that if he calls you for a second date, you won't ignore him.
 
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Agree..initiate contact as well as follow up on those who contact you. The good news is there are a lot of first dates.

So it seems the problem is the first dates themselves. Are they kick the tires coffee dates? Are the rushed last minute after work drinks? What is talked about? This may give you insight as to where the hold up is......Good Luck..
 
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Maybe someone can tell me if I did something wrong in my most recent experience. It was definitely a kick the tires coffee date. We ended up spending 4 hours at the place talking. The conversation was very natural and easy -- we talked about work history, hobbies, growing up, college, etc. We had several experiences in common that we discussed. At the end, he offered me a ride home and I accepted. (Living in Manhattan where most people don't drive, this isn't usually an issue that comes up at all. I wouldn't accept a ride unless I felt very comfortable that the guy wasn't going to abduct and kill me.) We chatted more in the car, and when we reached my building, he said, "Well, you have my number." (At this point we had only exchanged messages on a dating site, although he did leave his number in the message in which we were confirming plans.) I said, "Yes, and I sent you mine earlier today." He gave me a peck on the lips and that was that. Two days later I sent him a message on the dating site that said, "Hey, I had a nice time. I hope you were able to enjoy your Sunday in spite of having to work. Let me know if you want to hang out again." and I included my real e-mail address. I never heard back from him. I was mostly surprised because I thought he was the kind of guy who would respond politely, "It was nice to meet you but this isn't going to work out -- good luck." I hate no answer because I can't tell if there was something wrong with my post-date follow-up or if he just wasn't interested regardless of my actions. It would be really helpful to know if it were the former.

In the past I've been over-eager with post-first date contact, so now I try to be more restrained while still being clear that I'm open to getting together again.
 
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Duplicate thread /post :http://advice.eharmony.com/boards/da...ond-dates.html (No second dates?)
 
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If you had his number why didn't you call him, and why wait 2 days? Terms like ''hanging out'' sound like friend zone to me. And the whole conversation about phone numbers sounded really indecisive/lack of confidence/interest on both yr parts. If he drove you home and kissed you then it's kinda clear he may have been interested and maybe he was looking for you to show some you know initiavtive when he said, 'You have my number.' That would've been a great time to say something about a second date and calling him.Waiting around for the dude to do everything is a dead end.

Maybe someone can tell me if I did something wrong in my most recent experience. It was definitely a kick the tires coffee date. We ended up spending 4 hours at the place talking. The conversation was very natural and easy -- we talked about work history, hobbies, growing up, college, etc. We had several experiences in common that we discussed. At the end, he offered me a ride home and I accepted. (Living in Manhattan where most people don't drive, this isn't usually an issue that comes up at all. I wouldn't accept a ride unless I felt very comfortable that the guy wasn't going to abduct and kill me.) We chatted more in the car, and when we reached my building, he said, "Well, you have my number." (At this point we had only exchanged messages on a dating site, although he did leave his number in the message in which we were confirming plans.) I said, "Yes, and I sent you mine earlier today." He gave me a peck on the lips and that was that. Two days later I sent him a message on the dating site that said, "Hey, I had a nice time. I hope you were able to enjoy your Sunday in spite of having to work. Let me know if you want to hang out again." and I included my real e-mail address. I never heard back from him. I was mostly surprised because I thought he was the kind of guy who would respond politely, "It was nice to meet you but this isn't going to work out -- good luck." I hate no answer because I can't tell if there was something wrong with my post-date follow-up or if he just wasn't interested regardless of my actions. It would be really helpful to know if it were the former.

In the past I've been over-eager with post-first date contact, so now I try to be more restrained while still being clear that I'm open to getting together again.
 
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I thought the same thing as MileHigh..when I read this part of your post...
Whats with the games?..He takes you out..drives you home...gives you his number and you email him through the site ....two days later??

Try to use some manners as far as timely responses and using someones number when that is what they give you to contact them...not the dating site email.

He may just think you are lazy, uninterested or flaky at this point...Better luck next time....
Two days later I sent him a message on the dating site that said, "Hey, I had a nice time. I hope you were able to enjoy your Sunday in spite of having to work. Let me know if you want to hang out again." and I included my real e-mail address.
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If you had his number why didn't you call him, and why wait 2 days? Terms like ''hanging out'' sound like friend zone to me. And the whole conversation about phone numbers sounded really indecisive/lack of confidence/interest on both yr parts. 'You have my number.' That would've been a great time to say something about a second date and calling him.Waiting around for the dude to do everything is a dead end.
 
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I definitely can relate to your feelings about first dates. However, please understand that experiencing "one and done" dates is par for the course when choosing to use online dating as a means of meeting people.

Sometimes, you will have to go through a plethora of "one and doners" before meeting someone who you click with. But, giving up on dating altogether will not solve anything. Plus, giving up will only hurt your chances of being with someone. If you think that being lonely is better than being with someone of significance, then knock yourself out.

Lastly, you are not the only person who experiences one and done dates. It happens to most people who are online. Maybe you need a little break from online dating so that you can get yourself together. Also, consider meeting people the old fashioned way and being that you live in NYC, I am sure there are plenty of places and events where you can meet someone who may chare a common interest or two.

I am sorry you had the misfortune of meeting men who may not share an equal interest in you, but it isn't the end of the world nor should you allow it to be for you. Keep your chin up, keep it moving and continue to put yourself out there until you find your special beau.

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BabyYoda wrote :
I definitely can relate to your feelings about first dates. However, please understand that experiencing "one and done" dates is par for the course when choosing to use online dating as a means of meeting people.
I don't think that's true. If that's been happening to you, then it's likely that your attitude that she's probably not going to be in your life too much longer is a factor.

If you meet someone and there is no tension or anticipation in your body language, there will be no chemistry. Most people NEXT for lack of chemistry.

You can feel someone's interest in you as a person. That can generate sparks. If one person is jaded it reduces the date to a question of physical attraction and nothing else.
 
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harnomygirl wrote :
I don't think that's true. If that's been happening to you, then it's likely that your attitude that she's probably not going to be in your life too much longer is a factor.
What do you mean, it isn't true? So, you are saying that one and done dates doesn't happen? I will wager that most people who online date have experienced one and done dates. Not all dates go well. Some only last one date. Others go to the second or third date. Others may lead up to a relationship. It is definitely par for the course to experience one and done dates.

As for one and done dates occuring due to my attitude, well, maybe it happens due to my date's attitude. Have you considered that as an option? lol When meeting someone for the first time ever, a person is going to assess your level of attractiveness right away. If said person isn't attracted to you, then game over! If I happen to assess someone's level of attractiveness and I have concluded that she isn't my cup of tea, then game over! It happens to the best of us. *shrugs*

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If you meet someone and there is no tension or anticipation in your body language, there will be no chemistry. Most people NEXT for lack of chemistry.
To expect someone to always click upon a first meet and greet may not be reasonable. Remember that "chemistry" has multiple components. There is more to "chemistry" than physical attractiveness. Also, when meeting someone for the first time, I naturally take into consideration that said person may be nervous and uncomfortable due to being unfamiliar with me. Is it fair to expect said person to automatically become bubbly and affectionate and talkative towards me? I am not so sure. I think that, sometimes, it may take a little time to warm up to some people and with other people, there is a natural connection due to instant physical attraction.

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You can feel someone's interest in you as a person. That can generate sparks. If one person is jaded it reduces the date to a question of physical attraction and nothing else.
How would you know if someone is jaded or not unless you talk to them? When you first meet someone, the first thing that happens is an assessment of one's physical attraction. It really doesn't matter if someone is jaded or not, if there is no physical attraction. Also, if you already know someone is jaded prior to meeting them, then why would you agree to meet them in the first place, since you obviously lack compassion and understanding of their feelings?

Bottomline is that I can relate to the OP's sentiments. Been there, done that! lol But, what I told her was actual and factual. Online dating presents challenges and sometimes it presents inflated expectations from people. It takes someone with an open mind, open heart, positive attitude as well as patience and effort to make a date go well. Some people are willing to do whatever necessary to make something happen and you have those who expects everything to "magically" happen. I prefer the former than the latter.

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