I'm an already-committed-man magnet. :-( Why?!!!


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kaecee is offline kaecee Post #11  July 28,2010, 2:45pm
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hankscorpio: that's hilarious! LOL
 
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hankscorpio: that's hilarious! LOL
My dog always says the same thing.
 
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kaecee is offline kaecee Post #13  July 28,2010, 6:10pm
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Ok...... I obviously don't get your sadistic sarcasm. B!
 
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Can someone please tell me why the only guys that seem attracted to me enough to open a dialog are guys that are already in committed relationships? This phenomenon is frustrating me.

What makes it even more intolerable is that without exception these guys have very high regard for their significant others, whether they are fiances, wives, or girlfriends; and, they feel the need to advertise to me how incredibly wonderful the women in their lives are. That leaves me scratching my head and asking, "So why are you telling me this again? And, if your woman is so phenomenal why on earth are you flirting with me?!"

I have never really dated much. I was in a committed relationship for 20+ years that ended a few years ago. Since that break up I have been on one date. And I'm convinced that guy was married too, even though he never admitted it to me.

I'll admit, having entered into an exclusive relationship so young in my life, that I am not an experienced dater. I don't understand the games people play and I'm a bit intimidated. But this committed-guy syndrome I seem to keep attracting into my life is not acceptable. I don't want someone else's guy flirting with me, and then easing his own conscience about his actions by delivering glowing remarks about how wonderful his woman is. Please! Give it a rest! Pick on someone your own size!

I'm obviously doing something wrong. Why can't a guy who is 'free' find his way into my path? This can't be the norm. Can it? Otherwise, how can a woman ever expect to find a life companion? In my experience they all seem to be taken!

I have a couple of thoughts on your question:

First, are you sure that flirting means intent? I flirt, somewhat, with women in my workplaces, even though I know there is no possibility (or intent) of anything.

I flirt because it is fun. Nothing more.

Second, how is it that these are the guys you're speaking to?

Most people, I think, are selective in who they will "allow" into any level of intimacy with. This selectivity produces a highly non-random sample; therefore, what appears to be common behavior is is not in fact a measurement of men, but an outcome of your methods.

For example, nearly all the e-mail I receive on online dating sites (all but ten out of about 350 messages) are women looking for money, and half of them advertise how they pose nakked on the internet. I am cognizant that this is not a valid conclusion that 97% of women are like this - I realize that those who are are disproportunately active online, which is surely the true explanation for my data.

In the same manner, the "player" style of man may be presumed to be more active at approaching women; this does not make these men common as a percentage of all men.

A mitigation to this problem is to enhance the diversity of your men, such as by approaching men, initiating with men, meeting men in different settings, etc. Anything which improves sample diversity improves accuracy in assessing the true prevelance of a trait.
 
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To Mr_Right:
An example of a recent proposition to me: A married guy who thinks his wife is an incredible cook, wife and mother, asks me to fly with him (just the two of us) to another city for "lunch" one weekend for a chit-chat. A chit-chat? Yeah, right.

To BikerBeagle: Believable enough? Is that flirting, or just a man that wants to see if he can sleep with me to demean me because he is not attracted to me at all?
What is your relationship with this 'married guy' already? ...co-worker?

Men are pigs, I'll be the first to admit that (and have, many times), but this behavior you are accounting is so *wildly inappropriate* there has to be a "rest of the story". No one makes a proposition like that knowing they are going to get rejected, it just doesn't happen ...especially not a married guy who is taking a considerable risk that you will tell his wife. It makes no sense whatsoever.

In order to make this believable, and as I've stated already, he had to have a good reason to expect that you would accept his proposal/advance ...AND, not tell his wife about it. The only women I know with that kind of guarantee would be prostitutes, escorts, and some exotic dancers ...ergo, women being paid to 1) have sex and 2) to stay quiet. Assuming you are not in any of those professions, why would he believe that you might have agreed to his invitation? (Answer this question, you answer the question that started this topic.)
 
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I have a couple of thoughts on your question:

First, are you sure that flirting means intent? I flirt, somewhat, with women in my workplaces, even though I know there is no possibility (or intent) of anything.

I flirt because it is fun. Nothing more.

Second, how is it that these are the guys you're speaking to?

Most people, I think, are selective in who they will "allow" into any level of intimacy with. This selectivity produces a highly non-random sample; therefore, what appears to be common behavior is is not in fact a measurement of men, but an outcome of your methods.

For example, nearly all the e-mail I receive on online dating sites (all but ten out of about 350 messages) are women looking for money, and half of them advertise how they pose nakked on the internet. I am cognizant that this is not a valid conclusion that 97% of women are like this - I realize that those who are are disproportunately active online, which is surely the true explanation for my data.

In the same manner, the "player" style of man may be presumed to be more active at approaching women; this does not make these men common as a percentage of all men.

A mitigation to this problem is to enhance the diversity of your men, such as by approaching men, initiating with men, meeting men in different settings, etc. Anything which improves sample diversity improves accuracy in assessing the true prevelance of a trait.
Brilliant confused the poor thing!

What he said was meet more guys outside of those that are stuck around you all day and perhaps you are the only one who is fun to flirt with.

I flirt with guys, they flirt with me. The ones that are married or committed would die, run, or run then die if I ever actually responded to their comments. Even the vacations, going away, whatever are just words. Unless they actually acted on them it is just flirting. Some guys are just better at it than others.

It is not anything that you could have done to make it less confusing. You just don't seem to have been around good flirters to realize these guys just stink at it.

Oh and another thing I have noticed are the ones that tell you they are in a relationship it is because they want to make sure you don't act on it. I would speculate it is because they have no will power and may give in but I have never called anyone's bluff when flirting.
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Hi kaecee,

If you get approached by men who are not available, but never by men who are available ... I wonder if you are somehow sending out negative signals to the available men.

It's not necessarily that you're inviting unavailable men, but more that you're turning away available men somehow?

Of course not knowing you I have no idea whether this is true, or what you might be doing. You say you're shy ... perhaps you generate walls of some kind when an available man is around? What do you think?
 
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Sassafras54 wrote :
Hi kaecee,

If you get approached by men who are not available, but never by men who are available ... I wonder if you are somehow sending out negative signals to the available men.

It's not necessarily that you're inviting unavailable men, but more that you're turning away available men somehow?

Of course not knowing you I have no idea whether this is true, or what you might be doing. You say you're shy ... perhaps you generate walls of some kind when an available man is around? What do you think?
An interesting addition to your post, Sassafras, is that studies have shown that women (by a significant margin) are more attracted to men who are already married: Single Women More Attracted to Married Men, Study Shows - Offbeat News - InfoNIAC - Latest Inventions

It's quite possible that the OP is actually the one who is (possibly even subconsciously) attempting to attract committed men.
 
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