jayjay is offline jayjay Post #21  March 18,2010, 3:53pm
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As a man in this day and age, it is confusing as heck, believe me.
I think confusion only comes when we are looking to what other people are telling us we should want. I say....figure out what it is one really wants....and then go for it (whatever that may be). Screw what anyone else tries to convince you of.
 
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listererik is offline listererik Post #22  March 18,2010, 4:44pm
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jayjay wrote :
I think confusion only comes when we are looking to what other people are telling us we should want. I say....figure out what it is one really wants....and then go for it (whatever that may be). Screw what anyone else tries to convince you of.
I could not agree more. I decided that, within the last year or so, I'm going to find someone that is like me and has a similar personality. Someone that I just click with. However, I don't know the OP's age or maturity level, so I'm just attempting to let him know "been there, done that, I know what you are talking about".

Definitely good advice, though.
 
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I don't want to agree with you, but...

I do know several women, financially stable, the only reason they date, or have sex with men is to procreate desirable offspring.

It sickens me to some extent, that the next time I have a ONS it might result in a child that I will never know about. I don;t have them often, or at all to his date. Is this not still a situation of someone "being used"? makes me feel cheap without even doing it, I'm being used for sperm, that's it.

It does happen.., a lot more than it used to. I do not think it is even near a norm yet, but I think it is scary to think of, just the same.

I feel like being a man is becoming more more worthless.
we need to end women's suffrage and get them out of the workplace, bare foot and pregnant, that's what I'm saying.
the way it was..., the way it ought to be..

I won't go down into the night,
Not for me without a fight.
I am here from now till then
to fill a void that need, of women.

I was just kidding about that other statement, I do know it will probably get some heat, but hey.
Have a good day!!
 
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FairIsFair wrote :
I suspect this is largely true, but a few "modern" women could do much more towards convincing us that they're not just man haters, imho.
Please, would you be able to expand upon your comment? What is it that we (modern women) are doing which is sending a vibe: man-hater?
 
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OP: your friend is not very smart.

I'm a "modern day woman" ( this sounds like a personal hygeine commercial) and i like to be held, and hugged, and have my guy hold my hand in the car.

women now have the opportunity to make their own money, own property, be educated and (gasp) vote and have ideas! it's a great thing. American women especially have had more education and career opportunities. this means they no longer need a man, but that doesn't mean they don't want one.

I think where the problem lies is that now, men have to have more to offer than food, clothing and shelter to someone. this confuses a lot of guys these days. and sometimes, they don't want to put in the work

my suggestion to you would be to make yourself over into a modern day man. be cultured, learn interesting things, clean your fingernails, have hobbies, and you will be attractive to someone.
 
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Yeti wrote :
I don't want to agree with you, but...

I do know several women, financially stable, the only reason they date, or have sex with men is to procreate desirable offspring.

It sickens me to some extent, that the next time I have a ONS it might result in a child that I will never know about. I don;t have them often, or at all to his date. Is this not still a situation of someone "being used"? makes me feel cheap without even doing it, I'm being used for sperm, that's it.

It does happen.., a lot more than it used to. I do not think it is even near a norm yet, but I think it is scary to think of, just the same.

I feel like being a man is becoming more more worthless.
we need to end women's suffrage and get them out of the workplace, bare foot and pregnant, that's what I'm saying.
the way it was..., the way it ought to be..

I won't go down into the night,
Not for me without a fight.
I am here from now till then
to fill a void that need, of women.

I was just kidding about that other statement, I do know it will probably get some heat, but hey.
Have a good day!!
If you are concerned about being used, you have two choices:

1. Do not engage in sex until you are both on the same page about what it means and about what the relationship is.

2. Take responsibility for your own reproductive vulnerability either by surgical means or by consistent and responsible birth control methods.

Women have been held accountable for both throughout the ages.

It is interesting that the things we choose to be humorous about often reveal more than we intend about our true natures.

I agree with Scarlet. If you have an issue with modern women, either choose someone like-minded or step up your game to be more versatile in what you bring to the table.

It would be disingenuous of me to say that I 'need' a man in a traditional sense since I've been successfully taking care of myself from about age 15...largely out of necessity and some of that necessity is the direct result of some men failing to do the things that they take on as obligations.

It would be wrong to assume from my previous statement that I don't need a man.
 
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On the other side of the coin, it seems that spending time on 'courtship' is very much a thing of the past. While I believe a lot of women still want traditional type relationships with men, there doesn't seem to be any men left that know about or wish to practice the art of courtship.

It seems men are ready to jump into bed (to be fair, some women too) before taking the time to get to know someone to see if this person is worth pursuing. If both parties just wish to have a physical encounter, that's fine too. But if you are looking for a long term relationship, how about reviving the 'art' of a good old fashioned courtship?
 
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If you're an "old fashioned" guy (and I am proudly in that camp myself), then you really aren't looking for a "one night stand" lady. Let her find a "one night stand" guy, and you wait for your "old fashioned girl". They are out there, and believe me, they are looking for you!

Be the man that your old fashioned gal will want to marry.
 
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Pi_Rho wrote :
If you're an "old fashioned" guy (and I am proudly in that camp myself), then you really aren't looking for a "one night stand" lady. Let her find a "one night stand" guy, and you wait for your "old fashioned girl". They are out there, and believe me, they are looking for you!

Be the man that your old fashioned gal will want to marry.
I completely agree and couldn't have said it better.
No matter what other people are doing... you just be the person you are and stick with your values.
 
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I believe that there may be a lot of "independent" women in society now, but in all honesty, I firmly believe there are FAR more women that have 'old fashioned' values... I for one am! Do yourself a favor and don't believe everything that ONE person may tell you, (no matter if they are even your bestfriend)... take it with a "grain of salt"... it is their opinion only, not every ones. I would highly resent being ANY ones, one night stand! (Congratualtions on being wise enough to ask for others opinions before coming to any conclusion).
(this is MY opinion) Thank you and Best of Luck!
 
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