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Dealing with BPD's (borderline personality disorder)is extremely painful and difficult to get over. What do you recommend to avoid these types of people who suffer from this? Any tips?
- October 31st, 2009, 09:47 am
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This is a hard one, because people with BPD are so manipulative and charming. They know what to say to get what they want in the moment.

It would be hard to recognize this behavior early on. Perhaps look at their wrists for signs of cutting; since many of them seem to be cutters.
- October 31st, 2009, 11:17 am
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Well, first of all, are you assuming it's BPD? ...do you have the training and expertise to diagnose such a condition?

I just kind of have the feeling here that you got burned and, rather than realize that it happens sometimes ...that someone just wasn't 'into you' or that you got involved with someone who has/had absolutely no idea what they want in the first place (rebound, perhaps?) ...you might be making up the "psycho" defense to clear your sense of closure.

Honestly, to answer your question, you can't avoid it - because, as KungFu stated, these people are manipulative and charming ...they live 100% in the moment and what they are feeling - either hot or cold - at any instance in time.

Personally, when it comes to relationships, I think we all have a bit of BPD in us ...it's what naturally occurs when our heart gets involved in someone without our head being on board with the situation.
- November 1st, 2009, 08:14 am
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I think you guys are confusing BPD with sociopathic behavior. Here is what the government health site says about BPD:

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Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a serious mental illness characterized by pervasive instability in moods, interpersonal relationships, self-image, and behavior. This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity. Originally thought to be at the "borderline" of psychosis, people with BPD suffer from a disorder of emotion regulation. While less well known than schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness), BPD is more common, affecting 2 percent of adults, mostly young women.1 There is a high rate of self-injury without suicide intent, as well as a significant rate of suicide attempts and completed suicide in severe cases.2,3 Patients often need extensive mental health services, and account for 20 percent of psychiatric hospitalizations.4 Yet, with help, many improve over time and are eventually able to lead productive lives.
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While a person with depression or bipolar disorder typically endures the same mood for weeks, a person with BPD may experience intense bouts of anger, depression, and anxiety that may last only hours, or at most a day.5 These may be associated with episodes of impulsive aggression, self-injury, and drug or alcohol abuse. Distortions in cognition and sense of self can lead to frequent changes in long-term goals, career plans, jobs, friendships, gender identity, and values. Sometimes people with BPD view themselves as fundamentally bad, or unworthy. They may feel unfairly misunderstood or mistreated, bored, empty, and have little idea who they are. Such symptoms are most acute when people with BPD feel isolated and lacking in social support, and may result in frantic efforts to avoid being alone.
People with BPD often have highly unstable patterns of social relationships. While they can develop intense but stormy attachments, their attitudes towards family, friends, and loved ones may suddenly shift from idealization (great admiration and love) to devaluation (intense anger and dislike). Thus, they may form an immediate attachment and idealize the other person, but when a slight separation or conflict occurs, they switch unexpectedly to the other extreme and angrily accuse the other person of not caring for them at all. Even with family members, individuals with BPD are highly sensitive to rejection, reacting with anger and distress to such mild separations as a vacation, a business trip, or a sudden change in plans. These fears of abandonment seem to be related to difficulties feeling emotionally connected to important persons when they are physically absent, leaving the individual with BPD feeling lost and perhaps worthless. Suicide threats and attempts may occur along with anger at perceived abandonment and disappointments.
People with BPD exhibit other impulsive behaviors, such as excessive spending, binge eating and risky sex. BPD often occurs together with other psychiatric problems, particularly bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety disorders, substance abuse, and other personality disorders.

This doesn't seem to me to be that hard to discern. Evaluate over time before you commit your heart. Do not rely on chemistry or connection alone to make a decision. Combine it with some judgment. If you have any tendency at all in your character to be a rescuer, get some counseling to understand why you rescue and how you can make better choices with who you allow into your life.

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I find it extremely disturbing that anything you read about being in a relationship with someone who suffers from BPD is so negative. You do realize that these people have, more often than not, had horrific things happen to them. It is possible for them to flourish in a relationship if they have a caring, supportive partner that understands the disorder. I'm not saying that people with BPD are complete saints, but they shouldn't be treated like monsters and have everyone run from them.
- November 1st, 2009, 03:33 pm
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I find it extremely disturbing that anything you read about being in a relationship with someone who suffers from BPD is so negative. You do realize that these people have, more often than not, had horrific things happen to them. It is possible for them to flourish in a relationship if they have a caring, supportive partner that understands the disorder. I'm not saying that people with BPD are complete saints, but they shouldn't be treated like monsters and have everyone run from them.
If they acknowledge their condition and agree to treatment, this is true, but the partner in question should choose this as an informed decision. However, it's also true that they can do a great deal of damage so I think the caution is warranted. Whether someone has had horrific things happen to them does not excuse behaving irresponsibly with others. Of course that's true whether a personality disorder is present or not.

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rr11 wrote :
Dealing with BPD's (borderline personality disorder)is extremely painful and difficult to get over. What do you recommend to avoid these types of people who suffer from this? Any tips?
I gather from the OP's remarks that he may have been involved with someone who was diagnosed, or had exhibited behaviors consistent with BPD. Most people are unaware of BPD, and assume that their SO's erratic behaviors are due to moodiness, depression, bipolar, antisocial or anger management issues. Another term for BPD is emotional dysregulation. They seem to have a longing to be with you, to cling to you, due in large part, to fear of abandonment, stemming from traumatic events suffered in early childhood. They seem to have almost empathic power to read you and push the right buttons. They can seem totally normal, or quirky in a charismatic way, in work relationships; but personal relationships end up on rollercoasters.

I was also unaware, until I ended up on an EH date with some one whom I strongly suspect of having BPD. He was initially incredibly charming, funny, and attentive, crossing emotional boundaries. But he was also impulsive, dysphoric, dishonest, and in one single phone call, moved me from extreme idealization to devaluation, and raged at me in multiple subsequent e-mails and phone calls.

I think it's important that the OP recognize what it is about him that may draw some one with BPD to him. He may have codependent issues, be attracted to some one who wants him to be her protector, her knight in shining armor, who adores him, who may be "out of his league" but treats him like her hero, who puts him on a pedestal, who wants to cling to him.

Go slow in the relationship, don't get sucked in by all the physical and emotional energy highs that could be generated. Look for signs of sudden moodiness or anger, followed by acts of contrition. If you start walking on eggshells, ask yourself if that's the kind of relationship that you want.
- November 2nd, 2009, 12:35 am
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KungFuFtr wrote :
It would be hard to recognize this behavior early on. Perhaps look at their wrists for signs of cutting; since many of them seem to be cutters.
This is a complete generalization. Lots of people with BPD don't cut, and lots of people who cut don't have BPD.

And most "cutters" wouldn't do it on their wrist - they don't like people knowing that they do it, they're far more secretive.

Sorry, I just see this behaviour in my job sometimes, and it's really misunderstood...
- November 2nd, 2009, 12:00 pm
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