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Shaun85 is offline Shaun85 Post #1  October 10,2009, 10:19pm
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(I appreciate everybody that wrote on the "Undesirable, Unwanted with singles", mke no mistake I think I have really benefited from all your replies and I am taking each and everyone of your advices seriously. Thanks)


It seems pretty straight foward to think the best places to meet singles would be your bars, pubs, clubs, school, parties etc. But what is going on here seriously, all these places i frequently go out to with the intention of meeting someone, i see too many girls who come along with their girlfriends and just stick together. And thats really annoying. They dont look like they are chasing boys. Its Just that finding the ones who are doing what im doing, searching are very few and far now adays. Some I can't tell by how fast they move whether they are coming or going!! Over the last month I've gone out alot to bars, pubs, parties on average of 2-3 times a week. And I see alot of girls roughly my age and noticed that when they do come out its usually with their girlfriends and they don't look like wanting to search and pick up single guys like me, and ive observed them long enough in these places and either found they've stayed to enjoy "a girls night out" staying tight nit or have had male or females friends they know come later to join there gathering. Its very difficult to see a cute girl you've never met and come up and talk to them while there girl friends are all around them. True stories, I saw this really cute girl she was with her girlfriends, I smiled at her and she rolled her eyes at me and later pointed me out to her friends with a very miserable look on her face and i was embarrased. This other girl I came up to when she was by herself, I introduced myself, talked a little bit and said how nice her dress looked and then Everything just happend so quick i didnt have time to tell if she was recieving me well because her girlfriend quickly pulled her away and told her they had to go. I consider myself to be good looking, charasmatic and very open, What can I do about it and Where are some better places or situations I can search for singles without something like this occuring?
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BikerBeagle is offline BikerBeagle Post #2  October 11,2009, 8:09pm
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Honestly, you have to have a lot of 'game' to pick up women in clubs/bars/and parties ...'game', I'm guessing, you don't have. You have to be able to approach groups of people - called the "group close", I think, both men and women - single out and win over your target without offending the others.

I don't normally suggest this except in extreme situations, but you could probably benefit from navigating yourself over to fastseduction.com and start reading, maybe try to catch a few old episodes to "The Pickup Artist". These are "player"-oriented and I - in no way - condone their practices, but they have a lot of extremely helpful information if you keep it all in the right perspective.

The key is to "pick up" women without them knowing they are being "picked up". You have it written in neon the size of a billboard on your forehead.
 
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lil_lamb is offline lil_lamb Post #3  October 11,2009, 8:57pm
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i think the thing is, you have to find or create a situation where a girl can develop a sense of knowing you a bit. i mean, the only time i ever agreed to a date where a guy approached me cold - i was working as a receptionist. he chatted with me a bit, went into his appointment, and then returned on his way back out. he didn't ask me out on the first approach; he asked on the second.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #4  October 11,2009, 9:53pm
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...things seem to have gotten quiet around here.

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I think you're right that the bar type environment is difficult to have much success in finding a woman to have a relationship with. I think I've been fortunate that I haven't had the type of unpleasant experiences you described (maybe that's more likely with really young spoiled type girls?). Even so, I think it's highly unlikely that I'll meet a woman at a bar or club that I'd end up having a long term relationship with. You might just go to places like that to enjoy an evening out...but if you're looking for a long term relationship try to meet women elsewhere.
 
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kevin76 is offline kevin76 Post #5  October 12,2009, 9:33am
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I agree with the points made here already - it's most likely partly the environment, and partly your approach.

First, cute girls in bars/clubs are used to being hit on by every man in sight. Most of them will be taken already, and the rest will be VERY hard to get due to the level of competition.
Second, is your attempts to approach groups of women by yourself. A man by himself approaching a group of women is almost doomed to failure from the start. A man alone in a bar is a red flag for most women, they figure something must be wrong with him.
If you want to improve your chances there, get yourself a wing man. A guy who will agree to hang out with you at the bar, but not interfere or compete with you in picking up women. Just having someone there to back you up will make you appear more sociable and give you more confidence at the same time.
 
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BikerBeagle wrote :
Honestly, you have to have a lot of 'game' to pick up women in clubs/bars/and parties ...'game', I'm guessing, you don't have. You have to be able to approach groups of people - called the "group close", I think, both men and women - single out and win over your target without offending the others.

I don't normally suggest this except in extreme situations, but you could probably benefit from navigating yourself over to fastseduction.com and start reading, maybe try to catch a few old episodes to "The Pickup Artist". These are "player"-oriented and I - in no way - condone their practices, but they have a lot of extremely helpful information if you keep it all in the right perspective.

The key is to "pick up" women without them knowing they are being "picked up". You have it written in neon the size of a billboard on your forehead.
i completely agree. your intentions are different but the technique is the same.
 
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Dugl is offline Dugl Post #7  October 12,2009, 1:56pm
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Come to America mate....it's a chick buffet for a guy your age.
 
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Jojoba84 is offline Jojoba84 Post #8  January 25,2010, 12:12pm
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While it may be a "chick buffet", girls who go out in groups are incredibly difficult to get in with. As a girl who frequently goes out in a large group (5+) girls, I agree with the poster who said it is best to not look like you are trying to pick up the girl. Guys are often pretty lame, and even if the girl may think the guy is attractive, or like what he is saying... if she went off with that guy her girls would give her a hard time with it for sure.

Do you go out with a group of guys ? Guys with other guys is often better because then you guys can talk with a group of girls.
 
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jayjay wrote :
I think you're right that the bar type environment is difficult to have much success in finding a woman to have a relationship with. I think I've been fortunate that I haven't had the type of unpleasant experiences you described (maybe that's more likely with really young spoiled type girls?). Even so, I think it's highly unlikely that I'll meet a woman at a bar or club that I'd end up having a long term relationship with. You might just go to places like that to enjoy an evening out...but if you're looking for a long term relationship try to meet women elsewhere.
The problem is, there are more women there than elsewhere. And this is from a guy who has been to other places and events (coffeeshops, group hikes) than bars.




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Xable is offline Xable Post #10  March 13,2011, 1:10pm
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Okay, there are so many things going on here. Women travel in packs as a protection method.

If a girlfriend comes and pulls the girl away from you, trust me, it is for the best because you had no chance with her anyways. She is either not interested or already dating someone and still not interested. Girls don't pull their girlfriends away from guys when the girl is interested in the guy.

You need to remember that just because a girl is at a club or bar doesn't mean they are there to find someone. Most times, I'd say they are there just to hang out and have fun. So your attention towards them is often times unwanted.

It is very rare (those not unheard of) that a girl ends up in a LTR with someone they meet in a club/bar. They might hook up with you or even date you for a while but, thinking back to my college days, most girls just didn't think anything lasting would happen. So, I suggest you try looking at other venues for meeting up with girls if you are looking for something more than a hook up.

Going by yourself is a no-no. If you are by yourself, girls know you are there to meet girls and their guards go up (especially since bar/club meetings usually mean hook up and nothing more). If you are there with a group of guys, their guard is lower because they think you are there hanging out with your friends and you just happened to spy a girl you are interested in talking to. Find yourself a wing man.

You're gonna have to learn to approach the group because if you are waiting for the girl to be alone, it just isn't going to happen.

And as much as I despise "player behavior" I have to agree that reading up on it will help you out.
 
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